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The writing is on the wall for PKMSs the moment LLMs are powerful enough to drive agentic workflows.

What does that mean?

It means there is little point in providing a notes organiser when the notes can organise themselves (via LLM).

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that mean?

It means there is little point in providing a notes organiser when the notes can organise themselves (via LLM).

Except that the notes don't organize themselves, you just offload to a non-deterministic black-box to "lose them for you". Many (although, not all, true) give their PKMS a very opinionated shape, because the way knowledge is organized and structured matters as much, if not more, than the sum of the individual facts.

Personally, I'm not interested, but to each their own.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

Been creating an open source Workflowy alternative called Dotflowy and it’s available for testing now

https://app.dotflowy.com

Invite code: jesus-saves

Think Workflowy outliner meets plugin extensibility of Obsidian, meets the beauty of Linear, meets the markdown feel of Bear notes

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

Workflowy.

For anyone wanting Workflowy but open source and self-hostable, I’ve created Dotflowy

https://app.dotflowy.com

Invite: jesus-saves

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

I’m using Capacities and I love it. Great team.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you using Obsidian (and the LLM part if you want to expand on that) to build a second brain? I’m using Obsidian but more as a replacement for Apple Notes because it supports Markdown. My vault is just a collection of notes somewhat organized into relevant folders. I know there’s a lot of functionality I’m not utilizing.

At first I was using the plugin Claudian. Now I just opened the folder in Claude Code. It's not quite done yet, but when it is I think I'll anonymize it and share it on GitHub. In the meantime, here's a pretty screenshot without anything personal: https://snipboard.io/tyRYEJ.jpg https://snipboard.io/mryYKe.jpg Also used CC to help me build some complex Apple shortcuts to let me capture stuff easily. Either by sharing…

Have you tried dataview for rollups?

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

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Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

outl contributor here! we are early stage still, but we’ve been advancing it pretty quickly.

we now have the local P2P sync that enables you to sync all notes through all of your devices and many more features to come

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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After Logseq moved to an app focus and abandoned the "edit anywhere" convenience of being browser-based, I lost interest. I liked the original Logseq/Roam/Athens model, and I couldn't find anything similar elsewhere, so I just wrote my own. Markdown, git for versions, remote backup, themes (using the Tinted Themes repository of base16 themes), optionally encrypted notes. Lives in a browser, editable from anything wit…

I needed the "edit anywhere" capability, too, had a keen interest in logseq as a result, and now can't recommend Trilium more. https://triliumnotes.org/

For me, Trillium is far too busy, and it’s not an outliner. It’s great software though. (Believe me, I have tried the whole universe of these apps.)
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