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Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by wosk »

Valodim wrote: post #12
wosk wrote: post #9

I've been using Logseq DB (this new version, as a nightly, for a year) and it's a really great concept, way better than anything I tried for notes and organisation. You can apply tags to blocks, which make them a kind of thing (a project, an author, a quote, a thought). It is very fast, and easy to learn. I switched to it from Apple Notes + Obsidian (I've used logseq MD in the distant past). I have to say though that…

I'm curious, do you do version control, sync, or work with AI agents? If so, how does that work (for you)?

there is a CLI that gets installed when you install logseq, I just past the documentation (https://github.com/logseq/logseq/blob/master/docs/cli/logseq...) and codex knows what to do. Then I can summarize my journals over months and all.

I do version control by exporting the .edn (a serialized file that contains all nodes) and using git.

All of that is very alpha (to be honest, I don't understand them releasing a beta now). You need to hang in the discord from time to time to make sure you do not miss a thing. I think my note app being open-source is pretty important to me that I still deal with that.

Though because of this tagging thing, it seems very "AI-ready" in the sense that queries are naturals as some block have an identity.

An example: I have a tag called job-application which has a status (like a checked box) for applied, in-process, awaiting-input, discarded, ... and I have a tag for the pages that corresponds with my research projects, with status (published, chased, forgotten, ...) and some information (GitHub, collaborators, ...).

there are views that summarize this (all projects, all jobs application)

When I mention a person in my journal, it's very easy to see how my last meeting with them went and all.

I don't use sync, I've been told it works really well.

EDIT: I forgot to say you can enable a markdown-mirror and have one way sync (DB->MD) which is very convenient for agent, or if you like markdown.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by xienze »

phil42 wrote: post #11

Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

It's not exactly like logseq but I really like SilverBullet (https://silverbullet.md/). It's self-hostable and really hackable (plugins, dynamic categorization via embedding custom queries, etc.). Browsers are the first class platform. I really dislike how logseq/Obsidian etc. try to push you towards local fat clients or web clients that only use browser local storage. I _want_ everything stored on a central server so I can just pick up on any device without having to sync.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by wosk »

phil42 wrote: post #11

Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

You might want to try this new logseq though, if the devs have not burned all your goodwill. You can use it with a markdown mirror (it's a feature under settings) so you keep you same notes in markdown as well.

It's open-source, really well designed, local, you can even self-host sync...

But: the devs make questionable decisions that makes the development roadmap quite bumpy. It should ease up.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by bogdan »

lab14 wrote: post #20
phil42 wrote: post #11

Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

Workflowy is awesome.

Am I missing something? I get 100 bullets per month unless I subscribe? There are so many alternatives that are free. I'm using Capacities right now which seems way more feature rich and I haven't hit any limits on the free plan.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by yes_but_no »

phil42 wrote: post #11

Any good outliner alternatives out there? I originally came from Roam and was really happy to find an offline alternative in Logseq. I've since moved to Obsidian, though. Obsidian works well, but I still feel like my brain works best with the outliner-style workflow that Roam and Logseq offer. I have heard of https://outl.app/ but when I tried it out, it still seemed in a very early stage (and heavily vibe-coded, whi…

bike, if you are on macos https://www.hogbaysoftware.com/bike/

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by cromka »

Valodim wrote: post #2

It pains me to say, but it's probably too little, too late. Logseq remained a buggy mess, is now on an unmaintained (thus insecure) version of electron. And now after several years of complete stagnation, the supposed improvement is a database format to fix their technical issues, so I can no longer keep all my data as markdown files? At a time when half the edits are done by Claude and tracked with jujustu, this is…

I wanted to use Logseq to replace NotePlan's workflow on Linux, but it's nowhere close that. What's worse, I was barely able to setup something remotely close with Obsidian.

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by arikrahman »

Valodim wrote: post #2

It pains me to say, but it's probably too little, too late. Logseq remained a buggy mess, is now on an unmaintained (thus insecure) version of electron. And now after several years of complete stagnation, the supposed improvement is a database format to fix their technical issues, so I can no longer keep all my data as markdown files? At a time when half the edits are done by Claude and tracked with jujustu, this is…

I became so old waiting for usable non-lazy loading for long form notes that I ended up using Emacs for everything

Re: Logseq 2.0 Beta (DB version) is here

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Post by hack1312 »

AbstractH24 wrote: post #4
Valodim wrote: post #2

It pains me to say, but it's probably too little, too late. Logseq remained a buggy mess, is now on an unmaintained (thus insecure) version of electron. And now after several years of complete stagnation, the supposed improvement is a database format to fix their technical issues, so I can no longer keep all my data as markdown files? At a time when half the edits are done by Claude and tracked with jujustu, this is…

I love the concept of logseq, but the userbase is just too small and in turn the speed of change is too slow. . Over the last few weeks, with the help of Claude Code I've finally been able to dive into Obsidian and build out the second brain I've always wanted. With the power to auto-sort small thoughts jotted down on my phone with minimal interruption and some automated maintenance & sorting. CC has really reduced t…

How are you using Obsidian (and the LLM part if you want to expand on that) to build a second brain? I’m using Obsidian but more as a replacement for Apple Notes because it supports Markdown. My vault is just a collection of notes somewhat organized into relevant folders. I know there’s a lot of functionality I’m not utilizing.
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