Getting a pop-up like this would be a sure way to get me to never buy your brand again.
Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts
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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts
#72I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"
My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality
I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?
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#73> To opt out, call 1-800-777-3600 You call the number, maybe let it ring one time, and hang up. You did your part to opt out. Then you sue them.
You signed up for mandatory arbitration in the sales agreement probably.
Arbitration is still a pretty big money sink for them. If enough people do it then it becomes a problem for them. There have been instances of companies reinstating normal class action lawsuits back into their EULAs because it turned out that forced arbitration wasn't a magical wonderland of cost cutting for them after all. Forced arbitration and especially when they have a clause that forbids class-action arbitration can turn into a huge liability for them even if they nominally win every instance.
The fundamental financial maneuver of the modern world is to take modest risks of modest loss and financially engineer it into a smaller risk of much, much larger loss, with a higher expected loss (risk*size) in the end after the engineering than before. Forced arbitration (and especially when class arbitration is banned) is that manuever in the legal sphere. It isn't a ticket out of the risk entirely, it's shoving that risk under the rug and making it net larger. If you and a few hundred of your closest friends put their minds to it you can trigger that smaller-chance-of-larger-disaster scenario and all you have to do is file... you don't even have to win.
I won't deny it's an uphill battle but the forced arbitration clauses can be turned to consumer's advantage with relatively modest coordination, you just need to get enough annoyed people together.
(I can't help you with this one, I don't have a car with this problem. Your few hundred closest friends will need standing.)
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#74It's an interesting phenomenon. Something like this happens every week or two, and then these threads basically just become cope, with vague advice that most people can't easily do ("oh, just desolder the eSim contacts, it'll be fine"), as though that is in any way a longterm solution to corporate overreach in our daily lives. What if we all decided to actually work together to fix this terrible situation? Unfortunat…
So what's the collective action? Any proposed regulations to sign on to?
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#75Trying to estimate whether I'm old enough that when I buy the last car of my life, there will still be ones without screens to choose from.
May I present Coretti Cruisers restomods. Prime example: https://x.com/washghost1/status/1994198208545714472
Cost roughly $150K
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remote start is basic vehicle functionality for you? You and I understand the word "basic" differently. I wish they'd offer a lifetime purchase option--but maybe they learned from the 2g remote start debacle not to rely on technology they don't control
In the age of push-to-start cars, yeah it does feel basic to me. If I can unlock my car with my key fob, why can’t I send a signal to start it? My 2017 Honda civic has it without a subscription so I was pretty shocked to learn that Subaru decided its customers would be cool with it being behind a pay-wall.
Are you looking to remote start from the fob, or from an app? I agree that if it's done via the fob, that shouldn't require a subscription. But I understand that something requiring a cell signal will usually be paid, one way or another. I prefer it not be baked into the cost of the car, since some people (me) will not want that feature.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's not as if Mercedes (who made the vehicle he's talking about) or BMW are German.
Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol. They sell luxury goods, which people know to avoid when they care about reliability The thing is, jeeps are even beating the BMWs when it comes to unreliability. Yes Mercedes built that garbage for the US market because US market eats that crap. Then stellantis took it a step up and removed reliability from their vocabulary entirely - more profitable that way. I'd pick a…
>Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol.
G-Wagon is body on frame
Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts
#78Never buy any product from any company who does this.
There is a time to put your foot down and that time is now.
Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts
#79Pro tip: if you buy the new car, the ad goes away for a year ;)
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
All new cars have screens since reverse cameras are mandatory. You’ll have to shop on the used car market.
Oh really? My current car is over 20 years old so I'm way out of the loop. I guess I'll hope for options with smaller screens that control fewer of the functions.
My daily is a 1997 Range Rover.
My next daily will likely be something with approximately the same level of technology.
There are about ten buttons on the dashboard, of which the only ones I care about is the rotary knob that turns on the headlights and the button that switches the heater from "normal" to "EVERYTHING UP FULL ALL ON RIGHT NOW FULL BORE MAXIMUM EVERYTHING WE ARE GOING TO AIR FRY A POLAR BEAR ON THE BACK SEAT".
There's an LCD screen. It's the size of my thumb, and tells me how many miles it's done (only 190,000 - it's my low mileage one, my other has done 270 and there's a guy on my forum who's rapidly closing in on 600,000 miles in his), what gear it thinks it's probably in, and occasionally it uses this LCD to lie about the gearbox overheating because water got into the plug for the sensor when I drove through a river and it came over the bonnet.
It's not very fast or very efficient, but it does everything I need a car to do, and I have a full factory service manual for it and easy access to spares.