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Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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post #59

> To opt out, call 1-800-777-3600 You call the number, maybe let it ring one time, and hang up. You did your part to opt out. Then you sue them.

You signed up for mandatory arbitration in the sales agreement probably.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#62

I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"

My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

Remote start is basic vehicle functionality for you?

You and I understand the word "basic" differently.

I wish they'd offer a lifetime purchase option--but maybe they learned from the 2g remote start debacle not to rely on technology they don't control

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#63
post #59

> To opt out, call 1-800-777-3600 You call the number, maybe let it ring one time, and hang up. You did your part to opt out. Then you sue them.

You signed up for mandatory arbitration in the sales agreement probably.

"Agree to kangaroo court or be unable to go anywhere forever." I wonder what people will choose!

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#64
post #59

> To opt out, call 1-800-777-3600 You call the number, maybe let it ring one time, and hang up. You did your part to opt out. Then you sue them.

You signed up for mandatory arbitration in the sales agreement probably.

It's incredible that companies get the right to do this. What a corruption.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#65
post #8

I remember many years ago thinking, "if they can have a add a SIM card on a phone, why not add one in your car? Imagine an Internet connected car?" What I didn't think about was this would be an opportunity for ads and subscriptions. And everyday you'll own less and less of your car. I'm shopping for a car right now, I may have to just put a fresh coat of paint on my old one.

In most vehicles, you can pull the cellular capability (either a physical sim or the RF component). You'll lose telematics, but will also lose this.

Until that voids the warranty or the car refuses to start without internet access. Why do you think the depravity will stop here?

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#66
post #2

Trying to estimate whether I'm old enough that when I buy the last car of my life, there will still be ones without screens to choose from.

What if, instead of just attempting to retreat into a shrinking world that will eventually disappear, we all collectively worked together to fix things?

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#67
post #8

I remember many years ago thinking, "if they can have a add a SIM card on a phone, why not add one in your car? Imagine an Internet connected car?" What I didn't think about was this would be an opportunity for ads and subscriptions. And everyday you'll own less and less of your car. I'm shopping for a car right now, I may have to just put a fresh coat of paint on my old one.

Not just the ads. They are likely tracking your location, and drive events. These can be sold to your insurance company who may adjust your rates, or even drop you if they consider your driving patterns to be risky. When we got our Ford Maverick, first thing I did was disable this. Kudos to Ford for making this easy. Downside is that we got a recall notice about the software for the backup camera needing an update. I…

>They are likely tracking your location, and drive events

I can't speak to whether or whither they sell the data, but they are 100% tracking your location and vehicle events

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

Remote start is basic vehicle functionality for you? You and I understand the word "basic" differently. I wish they'd offer a lifetime purchase option--but maybe they learned from the 2g remote start debacle not to rely on technology they don't control

In the age of push-to-start cars, yeah it does feel basic to me. If I can unlock my car with my key fob, why can’t I send a signal to start it?

My 2017 Honda civic has it without a subscription so I was pretty shocked to learn that Subaru decided its customers would be cool with it being behind a pay-wall.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#69
It's an interesting phenomenon. Something like this happens every week or two, and then these threads basically just become cope, with vague advice that most people can't easily do ("oh, just desolder the eSim contacts, it'll be fine"), as though that is in any way a longterm solution to corporate overreach in our daily lives.

What if we all decided to actually work together to fix this terrible situation? Unfortunately, it will involve collective action, and holding companies accountable who are otherwise very averse to that sort of thing. But dear God, we can't keep "why don't you just"-ing forver as the world closes in around us, people.

If we want a better world, we are going to have to build a better world.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

#70

it'd be cool if we had a more consumer-friendly admin who would ban advertising on long-term purchases like washing machines, fridges, cars or require you the seller to tell you about how the advertising works on said things (ad types, whether they are child friendly, frequency, and upfront option to permanently opt out)

Yes. This problem of in-vehicle ads definitely stems from the current president, and a different president can and will solve it for good. A multi-step config panel for these ads is exactly what we need.
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