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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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I skimmed through the docs, couldn't see anything about soaking disabling it.

It's right there in the Google System Release Notes. Quoting https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/1434... : --- ### Google Play services v25.14 (2025-04-14) #### Security & Privacy • [Phone] Enables a future optional security feature, which will automatically restart your device if locked for 3 consecutive days.

Wow I'm blind. Thanks and apologies.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#72
post #65

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

I don't get the difference. Today after 72 hours (3 days) my phone asks me for my password and won't accept biometrics. Also, this is a problem for all the people that use them as alarm clocks. I use Alarm Clock Xtreme for example.

The phone doesn't accept biometrics but is still in AFU state. Encryption keys are in memory.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#73
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very clearly explained in the article.

It is not clear to me at all why the ‘benefits’ presented outweigh the negatives (which is _my_ device doing anything without me instructing it to). Even if you can turn it off, this is apparently enabled by default. Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me. Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. The chances of law…

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#74
post #65

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

I don't get the difference. Today after 72 hours (3 days) my phone asks me for my password and won't accept biometrics. Also, this is a problem for all the people that use them as alarm clocks. I use Alarm Clock Xtreme for example.

(At least on iOS) shutting down the phone has something to do with wiping credentials/keys from RAM from where they can potentially be dumped. A just-booted phone is fully encrypted with no keys in memory.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#76
post #24
post #18

Wait, why is this presented as a good thing? Why would I want my phone to auto reboot without my intervention? Never mind that it’ll never make three days on a single charge even if I don’t touch it.

Just be glad it’s not windows, which does it every 3 hours.

Topical joke 25 years ago

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#77

> This actually caused some annoyance among law enforcement officials who believed they had suspects' phones stored in a readable state, only to find they were rebooting and becoming harder to access due to this feature. Lmao. > The early sluggishness of Android system updates prompted Google to begin moving parts of the OS to Google Play Services. This collection of background services and libraries can be updated b…

Google locking features behind the closed source, proprietary Play Services is "more reason to move to AOSP"?

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#78
post #17

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Can you set the time to one minute?

Not against it, but I'm genuinely curious what the use case would be for that?

Could be useful in a scenario where you won't be using your phone often and really want to maximize battery life.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#79
post #50

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

Interestingly, it could also be seen the other way around; it's a potential way for Google to force deployments of system updates (potentially at the request of law enforcement). With an automatic reboot, then the update can automatically be applied without user action.

This makes no sense, Android already will reboot itself after receiving an update and being inactive for a while (generally while charging it will install the update in its secondary partition, do some verification checks and reboot if there is no user interaction).

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#80
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very clearly explained in the article.

It is not clear to me at all why the ‘benefits’ presented outweigh the negatives (which is _my_ device doing anything without me instructing it to). Even if you can turn it off, this is apparently enabled by default. Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me. Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. The chances of law…

> Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me.

It's not a problem, until it suddenly is.

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