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Alcohol-Related Deaths Surge to Nearly 500 a Day, CDC Says

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Could you share any evidence-based arguments against the evidence-based statements and recommendations summarized in the article? What fatal flaws undermine the research in the linked CDC page[1] establishing a causal link between alcohol consumption and DNA damage and increased risk of cancers of the mouth and throat, larynx, esophagus, liver, colon and rectum, and breast in women? [1] https://blogs.cdc.gov/cancer/2…

This isn't the place for an academic forum. Your audience isn't here. Also, he's not your monkey.

OP was the one to mention scientific research, not me. They effectively wrote "science? Policy? Ha! Prohibition was bad." Am I wrong to want to continue the discussion?

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post #61

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What would motivate false claims that alcohol correlates with cancer incidence?

I didn't say the science is wrong, I said the argument is special pleading.

What is special pleading? I’m a native speaker and think you are too but have no idea what you’re saying.

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No moralizing required. The pandemic measures in some states made liquor and drink delivery easier or legal and frankly glorified alcohol consumption. My friends in New York who own a liquor store 5x their sales and moved into an old big box storefront. Returning to 2019 regulatory framework is not prohibition nor blue laws. It would likely reduce alot of human suffering without impacting moderate drinkers.

What in the regulatory framework substantively changed? The only thing I can recall was to-go liquor sales with takeout - which I strongly suspect is not a big mover of change here.

In New York, bars are able to sell booze for off premises consumption. Delivery of packaged liquor also became more available.

It facilitates alot of work day drinking and bad outcomes for people with problems.

Re: Alcohol-Related Deaths Surge to Nearly 500 a Day, CDC Says

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I didn't say the science is wrong, I said the argument is special pleading.

What is special pleading? I’m a native speaker and think you are too but have no idea what you’re saying.

You can just Google the term.

Re: Alcohol-Related Deaths Surge to Nearly 500 a Day, CDC Says

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What does that mean, crossfade?

Have some marijuana and alcohol. Good results for me were two beers and a few puffs.

This has me cracking up. Problems with alcohol? Have you tried smoking pot at the same time?

Re: Alcohol-Related Deaths Surge to Nearly 500 a Day, CDC Says

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What in the regulatory framework substantively changed? The only thing I can recall was to-go liquor sales with takeout - which I strongly suspect is not a big mover of change here.

In New York, bars are able to sell booze for off premises consumption. Delivery of packaged liquor also became more available. It facilitates alot of work day drinking and bad outcomes for people with problems.

I think its worth studying - but I suspect that's nipping around the edges again - if you're dying of alcohol related illnesses, its from buying sizable quantities of booze at the place that sells booze - not a beer with lunch.

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Similar to vaping, is there a safer way to consume alcohol or get drunk in a similar way?

You can actually make ethanol into a vapor you can inhale, but unfortunately I assume that only makes it even more dangerous.

Alcohol enemas would be another ingestion alternative - though my understanding is that there's a lot of risk there. Apparently when you drink to much there's a chance you'll throw up - on the other end that won't happen so over consumption is pretty risky.
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