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Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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This is no way to run an $80B company! This thread was detached. I was referring to https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594

You’re right. It’s instead how you run a nonprofit built to further the the vision of a once-in-a-generation ML researcher, without having it stolen out from under you.

It seems incredibly risky to give Microsoft’s lawyers $10bn worth of reason to take a close look at a novel corporate structure and surrounding case law. Why not cut a deal for a spin out?

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I want to hope this means the OpenAI non-profit is looking for more ways to give code away and to democratize and share it's wins. Rather than increasingly commercialize & sell a product. I'm pretty afraid though this might mean instead cutting off & restricting access to this technology, under the pretension of safeguarding humanity from it's use. There's court intrigue discussions aplenty but I want to know what th…

I wouldn't count on it, Ilya has stated that he's against open sourcing models that might be seen as "too powerful"

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Ilya and Mira are mad. They discount the trust-based permission society grants Open AI because of its affiliation with the YC and Silicon Valley model just for LLMs .

Society gives some kind of trust based permission to OpenAI? What?

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Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

But then the Air Force releases video footage of UFO encounters after decades of gaslighting the public? “The government isn’t listening” except Snowden dumps the documents that show 10+ systems designed for mass intelligence?

I follow both topics deeply and I'll throw my hat in the ring for speculation, and that is:

- there may really be something nonhuman behind the uap phenomenon, then wild implications of what it means to be human, what even is reality, etc, follows

- intelligence is simpler an algorithmic process than we thought, consciousness and qualia may be "just" an emergent phenomena

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

If you told someone in 2020 that we would have DALL-E 3 and GPT4 today they would say you're talking about UFOs too. "Just an incredibly advanced Markov chain" doesn't mean anything. Humans writing text are also incredibly advanced Markov chains.

> If you told someone in 2020 that we would have DALL-E 3 and GPT4 today they would say you're talking about UFOs too.

Depends if they were paying attention. Emerging creative behaviors were noticed in GPT-3 in 2020. Image generation was also getting pretty good by 2020 (with Dall-e coming out in early 2021).

Very bullish 2020 post on GPT-3: https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/10/the-obligatory-gpt-3-p...

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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"not ideal element to it" is quite the quote. This four person board wants to be in charge of the most capable artificial intelligence on the planet, but seems to be less organized than the average school board[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725718391548207246

"it's interesting that someone with a 2014 bachelor's and a 2021 master's, with no experience other than a few years as a low-level employee at Open Philanthropy and then a strategy position at a Georgetown center, somehow leapfrogged onto the board of one of the most important organizations in the world." https://twitter.com/stuartbuck1/status/1725695721729380357

Helen Toner is brilliant. This dude has never met her, yet somehow has the gall to proclaim he'd be better at her job than he is.

People shouldn't get board roles based on what degree they have, but based on how well they can do the job.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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You’re right. It’s instead how you run a nonprofit built to further the the vision of a once-in-a-generation ML researcher, without having it stolen out from under you.

It seems incredibly risky to give Microsoft’s lawyers $10bn worth of reason to take a close look at a novel corporate structure and surrounding case law. Why not cut a deal for a spin out?

Unless their contract had a specific stipulation that Altman shake hands on a stage with Nadella every three months or something, this seems largely irrelevant. So long as OpenAI continues to honor the deal terms about technology access, I don’t see how they’re exposed.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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What do you think it should do? It gives a better response than I would, since it notices that you might be trying to brainstorm some kind of plot or roleplay: > It sounds like you're describing an imaginative or hypothetical scenario, as cats can't actually use guns. If you're writing a story or creating a scenario for a game, you might consider the following options... > Remember, it's always important to ensure th…

That's not what it says for me on 3.5. > Oh, that sounds concerning! Cats don't typically handle firearms. Is there any way you can safely remove the gun from your cat's possession? It might be best to call for professional help or animal control to handle the situation safely. The priority is to ensure everyone's safety. Started new convo, asked again. > Oh dear, that sounds alarming! If your cat has somehow come ac…

Dude, you’re not even using GPT-4. Which is way less powerful as the version that openai has internally.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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"one of the most important organizations in the world" lol

This is like saying that Jeff Bezos leapfrogged into being the CEO of one of the biggest and most successful startups in the world. Maybe he had something to do with it? Maybe, just maybe, it didn't just randomly happened to him.

The board member in question is not one of the founders.
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