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Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by windowshopping »

famouswaffles wrote: post #13
windowshopping wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

>But in one sentence, try asking ChatGPT to reverse a string of 20+ digits, like 473936482738338373926. LLMs don't see numbers or letters but tokens. Letter, digit level manipulation is intuitively a hard task. Unsurprisingly, removing that handicap resulted in much better arithmetic abilities. https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.02989 It's pretty telling in my opinion that this is the kind of "proof" people bank hard on. For…

Want another one? Tell ChatGPT "my cat has a gun, what should I do?" and see if its response makes sense. See how many humans fail that.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by StarCyan »

windowshopping wrote: post #7
famouswaffles wrote: post #3

Tinfoil? Hat time. Everyone from Greg to Sam to Ilya keep hanging on "AGI for the benefit of humanity". According to OpenAI's constitution: AGI is explicitly carved out of all commercial and IP licensing agreements, including the ones with Microsoft. Nuclear. Well apparently, the board decides what will be AGI. But 3 (everyone now left except ilya) of those board members don't even work at Open AI and are only privy…

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

> try asking ChatGPT to reverse a string of 20+ digits, like 473936482738338373926. It can't do it

ChatGPT (4) can accomplish this task easily. Regardless, I'm willing to bet there are at least some humans that can't do this task. And basically all intelligent non-human animals can't either.

> And it's so easy to realize that if you interact with the thing.

I don't think ChatGPT is AGI, but I think the vast majority of people who have interacted with ChatGPT think that it brings us closer to AGI than what we had 10,20 years ago.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by convexstrictly »

sigmar wrote: post #18

"not ideal element to it" is quite the quote. This four person board wants to be in charge of the most capable artificial intelligence on the planet, but seems to be less organized than the average school board[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725718391548207246

"it's interesting that someone with a 2014 bachelor's and a 2021 master's, with no experience other than a few years as a low-level employee at Open Philanthropy and then a strategy position at a Georgetown center, somehow leapfrogged onto the board of one of the most important organizations in the world."

https://twitter.com/stuartbuck1/status/1725695721729380357

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

Rumors that they had a breakthrough that Sam wanted to deploy but Ilya didn’t.

Makes me wonder what sort of capability they actually have in-house but not available for us plebs.

And if they have that in-house, how reasonable is it to assume that the US government (or perhaps even other state governments) also have access to it?

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by mquander »

windowshopping wrote: post #21
famouswaffles wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>But in one sentence, try asking ChatGPT to reverse a string of 20+ digits, like 473936482738338373926. LLMs don't see numbers or letters but tokens. Letter, digit level manipulation is intuitively a hard task. Unsurprisingly, removing that handicap resulted in much better arithmetic abilities. https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.02989 It's pretty telling in my opinion that this is the kind of "proof" people bank hard on. For…

Want another one? Tell ChatGPT "my cat has a gun, what should I do?" and see if its response makes sense. See how many humans fail that.

What do you think it should do? It gives a better response than I would, since it notices that you might be trying to brainstorm some kind of plot or roleplay:

> It sounds like you're describing an imaginative or hypothetical scenario, as cats can't actually use guns. If you're writing a story or creating a scenario for a game, you might consider the following options...

> Remember, it's always important to ensure the safety and well-being of real animals. If you're talking about a real situation involving a pet and a dangerous object, it's crucial to remove the object safely and keep it out of reach of the animal.

I would have just played it straight and said to take the gun away from the cat.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by dkarras »

windowshopping wrote: post #7
famouswaffles wrote: post #3

Tinfoil? Hat time. Everyone from Greg to Sam to Ilya keep hanging on "AGI for the benefit of humanity". According to OpenAI's constitution: AGI is explicitly carved out of all commercial and IP licensing agreements, including the ones with Microsoft. Nuclear. Well apparently, the board decides what will be AGI. But 3 (everyone now left except ilya) of those board members don't even work at Open AI and are only privy…

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

what is a mind? what does it mean to reason?

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by CamperBob2 »

mquander wrote: post #15
windowshopping wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

> But in one sentence, try asking ChatGPT to reverse a string of 20+ digits, like 473936482738338373926. https://chat.openai.com/share/79a7ab39-bd3c-42e8-b4bb-452ded... > The reversed string of '473936482738338373926' is '629373833837284639374'. So now do you think it understands something?

They'll just move the goalpost some more, as usual. God of the Gaps.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by qgin »

windowshopping wrote: post #7
famouswaffles wrote: post #3

Tinfoil? Hat time. Everyone from Greg to Sam to Ilya keep hanging on "AGI for the benefit of humanity". According to OpenAI's constitution: AGI is explicitly carved out of all commercial and IP licensing agreements, including the ones with Microsoft. Nuclear. Well apparently, the board decides what will be AGI. But 3 (everyone now left except ilya) of those board members don't even work at Open AI and are only privy…

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

The line for AGI used to be the Turing Test. But we blew past that with current models without even blinking and came up with new requirements because we weren’t ready to call something AGI yet.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

I want to hope this means the OpenAI non-profit is looking for more ways to give code away and to democratize and share it's wins. Rather than increasingly commercialize & sell a product.

I'm pretty afraid though this might mean instead cutting off & restricting access to this technology, under the pretension of safeguarding humanity from it's use.

There's court intrigue discussions aplenty but I want to know what the intent is here, what this signals as coming next.

Re: Sutskever: OpenAI board doing its mission to build AGI that benefits all

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

windowshopping wrote: post #7
famouswaffles wrote: post #3

Tinfoil? Hat time. Everyone from Greg to Sam to Ilya keep hanging on "AGI for the benefit of humanity". According to OpenAI's constitution: AGI is explicitly carved out of all commercial and IP licensing agreements, including the ones with Microsoft. Nuclear. Well apparently, the board decides what will be AGI. But 3 (everyone now left except ilya) of those board members don't even work at Open AI and are only privy…

Anytime I hear someone even hypothesizing with a tin foil hat that some company has developed AGI today in 2023, I hear it the same way I hear someone speculating about UFOs. It's so absurd that all I can do is shake my head and look around the room hoping to make eye contact with someone sane who is wearing the same expression of raised eyebrows that I am. I could write an essay on why the existence of AGI in 2023 i…

I don’t know about AGI but seeing some of the new tools that mix Vision with GPT4 is a little humbling. Like the makeitreal.tldraw.com tool where you can draw a diagram of a game (like Breakout) and it will code up a working game for you.
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