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Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by FredPret »

kergonath wrote: post #40
FredPret wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Americans made my phone, the backbone of the internet, and maybe the porn too

My phone was made in China, the Internet is global, and my porn most certainly isn’t American puritan. Cultural imperialism is just as bad when the US does it than when Russia does.

A designed-in-California phone that is made using designed-in-California production processes and funded by American dollars is only nominally "made in China".

The "global" internet is very much more American than it is marketed to be; including having been invented there and having most of its backbone there.

I remember growing up in Africa and connecting to the "international" network. I found almost only American businesses and content.

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Post by CommanderData »

throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #14

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

We need a middle ground. Sex is not equal to porn either. No parent wants their child accessing porn but locking devices is the wrong step.

ISPs should do a better job at completely blocking porn access. It's poorly implemented in the UK.

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Post by Barrin92 »

moi2388 wrote: post #29

The USA is so f*cking retarded. Sure, take all the drugs and pills you want. Sure, but guns. Sure, watch all the death and violence you want. But don’t you dare look at a nipple!

In the TV show Hannibal they unironically had to cover a naked butt with blood to lower the age rating. This single sentence sums up just about every pathology of US culture

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Post by CommanderData »

ako wrote: post #39
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

I’d prefer if we’d start by censoring violence and religion. Religion is just a big lie to manipulate people.

Religion controls people. Whether you think it's a lie is up to you & subjective.

Laws are based on someone else's ideas and those ideas control you.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by CommanderData »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #45
LispSporks22 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do you. Leave everyone else alone.

By this logic we should not try to even protect our kids from anything.

People freaking out here seem to not have kids.

I don't know a parent in the real world that would allow their child access to any porn.

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Post by Majestic121 »

sterlind wrote: post #38
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

This is not about you, or keeping you from doing whatever you want with your body. It is about an addictive behavior impacting the life of millions of men : https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscellaneous-resources/star...

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

kergonath wrote: post #60
goldenManatee wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is the line between porn and art, and how would it remain a consistently enforceable standard? Since early times, through the Greeks to now, art celebrates nudity and sometimes depicts static (because earlier civilizations had no video) representations of sex and violence mixing in order to tell a story (uhh … Persephone and Hades, much? or Zeus turning into a thousand animals to lure women then rape them). Whe…

> Where is the line between porn and art Why would there need to be a line? Something can be porn or art, or both. There is no conflict. Anything done between two consenting adults should be completely un-controversial. > Where do you draw the line; why draw it “there” as opposed to anywhere else; by what right is it to suppress, in the process, others’ definition of where to draw said line? What is the point in havi…

> two consenting adults

Why stop at two?

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Post by jemmyw »

CommanderData wrote: post #74
ako wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d prefer if we’d start by censoring violence and religion. Religion is just a big lie to manipulate people.

Religion controls people. Whether you think it's a lie is up to you & subjective. Laws are based on someone else's ideas and those ideas control you.

Well given religions are all different and only one could be true, it's more correct to say they're all a lie. One might be true. However, as old ones have died away and new ones will be created and the current ones evolve it's not even possible to say that any one religion is subjectively true to itself.

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Post by [deleted] »

CommanderData wrote: post #72
throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #14

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

We need a middle ground. Sex is not equal to porn either. No parent wants their child accessing porn but locking devices is the wrong step. ISPs should do a better job at completely blocking porn access. It's poorly implemented in the UK.

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