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Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Another controversial comment but I know more and more young men deciding not to waste time pursuing dates and instead going to prostitutes.

You aren’t going to settle down and marry a prostitute, though. Yes, I can see the argument for replacing the casual dating scene with a prostitute but not dating in general. Seeing a bunch of “women want love, men want sex!” comments in this thread and man are they off base. Of course men want love, belonging, family, etc etc… it’s a tired joke that they have to be tricked into commitment.

I fully agree with this. Me and my friends talk about dating a lot, the above comment is accurate

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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First, realize that women are just people too and "ninety percent of everything is crap." If you do wish to marry and settle down, you need only ONE good woman and you need to NOT crap all over her the minute you meet her because of baggage. 1. Very beautiful women sometimes set up dating profiles with no photos or take other measures to attract men for reasons other than how photogenic they are. 2. Hobbies are a goo…

Hey Doreen - hope you’re doing better. 1. I haven’t done online dating at all. What I’ve seen in real life is hit and miss. I know too much of the corporate world. Marital affairs, sleeping for promotions, sex parties with upper management/C-levels, you name it. 2. I have hobbies in the arts where I excel, am recognized, and there are lots of women. 3. My closest friends are hardcore players which doesn’t help. While…

Well, what's your goal here? Are you wanting to establish a committed, long-term relationship? Are you wanting to sleep alone and be left the hell alone and retrieve some piece of yourself from the meat grinder it's been put through?

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Another controversial comment but I know more and more young men deciding not to waste time pursuing dates and instead going to prostitutes.

It's only controversial in the US. Sex work is a legitimate job. We are selling our brain time on a daily basis to employer. Someone else is selling labor and cleaning the sewers. It's exactly the same thing unless you have a religious agenda.

Only if there's a legal framework which is followed and enforced to prevent exploitation.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Throwaway. I’m looking for advice. I live in a decently big city, I make very good money - close to 200k which is far above what most people here pull in. Lead teams of people. Am in mid 30s, well over 6ft. White. My (few) sexual partners couldn’t get enough. I work out with a generous physique, get compliments that I can’t even accept these days. I’m extremely jaded. I stopped talking/interacting and even making eye…

Feel free to email me and have a call. I am an average guy that’s rocking it

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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There's an old joke -- or perhaps humorous observation -- that men want to be the first person a woman sleeps with and women want to be the last person a man sleeps with. Men tend to be looking for sex. Women tend to be looking for long-term relationships. Another similar observation: Men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.

I actually think its the complete opposite. Alot of nice looking well kept women just want sex

Or it just starts out that way. ;)

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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As an asian man who has traveled to LATAM and the US, I am not surprised. American women are super entitled, hard to approach and borderline delusional when selecting men. It is never enough for them. They are hard to approach, judgy and sincerely just a pain in the ass. Women in LATAM for example are a thousand times sweeter, more feminine and approachable.

Women in LATAM are also much more likely to get a boob job as teenagers (it was so common that until a law was passed preventing it, 30 percent of plastic surgeries in Colombia were on underage girls). LATAM cultures are in some ways more warm and welcoming, but in other ways more regressive/toxic, such as their gender roles and sexuality. Seems great to you because you're benefiting from it, but American women probably enjoy greater independence.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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post #28

Another controversial comment but I know more and more young men deciding not to waste time pursuing dates and instead going to prostitutes.

It's only controversial in the US. Sex work is a legitimate job. We are selling our brain time on a daily basis to employer. Someone else is selling labor and cleaning the sewers. It's exactly the same thing unless you have a religious agenda.

No it's not, it might be acceptable in a few societies but in a vast majority of societies across the globe sex work is both frowned upon and illegal.

You are naive if you think all prostitutes are willing participants that chose this as a career. Across the world forced prostitution/sex work is fuelled by human trafficking of women and minors.

In an ideal world human beings should be free to make their own choices based on their context and society free to judge them based on it's context. One can't have it both ways. One cannot have absolute individual freedom within a social substrate and be an accepted member of said society without adhering to the norms of the social contract, what ever that might be.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I completely agree with this if you're just talking about dating apps. When you give everyone the ability to look at every attractive person in their area, it changes people's perspective of what's attractive/not. Also, people are almost solely rated on how attractive they are and 100 words to describe yourself (sometimes less depending on the app), you get a situation where the attractive people get tons of matches and less attractive people get fewer even if they have more to offer than just their looks. Finally, women seem to rate attractiveness on a long tail distribution. It's a nightmare all around.

What's funny to me though is how different the IRL dating scene is. I got 1-2 matches a week (very few where I would get a response back) when I was on the apps, but through meeting friends-of-friends, casually going to a bar, meeting people at church, or other normal events, I can consistently get dates that would be out of my league on the apps just by introducing myself. I don't have stats for "epic bed partners" since that's not something I'm interested in, but I'm sure it would translate for those that are.

I find that people in my age group (early 20s) are moving from app dating to irl because apps can seem hopeless unless you really optimize which seems unauthentic. I think there's going to be a generation who will have trouble finding partners, like you said, but I feel like my generation and the folks younger than me will be alright.

Edit: I also want to point out that it's pretty bad in tech where people are constantly moving (I know a guy who moved once a year between SF, Seattle, Denver, NY, and Charlotte) to new cities all the time and can't create good, deep friendships. First, if you're dating irl, it's tough meeting people who can introduce you to single women. Second, it's hard to be a good date if you don't have friends. I don't even want to explain that, but it should be obvious.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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> As these women enter their 30s I really dont know what is going to happen. Society will be an odd place in twenty years. The social dynamics between men and women have never existed like this. Be a bro and refer a couple to a less attractive friend? Tell her it'll make you happy as an incentive.

That way you can be the living representation of her disappointment in life? It would be hard for me to imagine a hotter hell.

Otherwise she'll die alone, along with his ugly friend.
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