If the game was more enjoyable even when you're losing this would have never been an issue.
Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
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Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#72So, as someone with a lot of very strong opinions about both League of Legends and online communication, I am wildly in favor of this decision. The problem with all-chat in League of Legends, particularly in the ranked queue, is that it can only hurt your team's chances to win. At best, you're wasting time typing; at worst, you're actively frustrating and distracting yourself from what is already a very difficult gam…
It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays
Its always fun to watch the big games at the dota leagues (like The International going on atm [0]) and half the players is just taunting and spamming voice lines which are a item you can buy where you play a bit of audio in the game. And it happens at every level of play, from my own games deep in the trench to the highest level of play.
(You can also high five your enemies for some friendly interaction)
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#73Sad. I’m also reminded of a UX change a few years back that I felt significantly reduced chat engagement in the post-game screen.
gg ez
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#74So, as someone with a lot of very strong opinions about both League of Legends and online communication, I am wildly in favor of this decision. The problem with all-chat in League of Legends, particularly in the ranked queue, is that it can only hurt your team's chances to win. At best, you're wasting time typing; at worst, you're actively frustrating and distracting yourself from what is already a very difficult gam…
It is funny how Dota 2 goes completely in the opposite direction. It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate(useful when you kill an enemy). Because this (mind game) is part of winning Dota matches. You win when the opposing team loses its spirit. [1] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Taunt_(Equipment)#List [2] https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sprays
> It lets you taunt[1], spray paint[2] and high five your teammate
Never played a lot of MOBAs, but those are usually all canned interactions provided by the game devs, are they? As such I imagine they have a different impact than an actual chat message that you know your opponent just thought up.
It's like spamming stickers in telegram vs having an actual conversation there.
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#75Maybe a dumb question, but why is toxicity in chat a problem that needs to be solved (to the point of disabling all cross team chat)?
Just kinda ruins the game, which makes people not want to play. People get really aggressive when they built their identity around “being good at x”. So if you’re their teammate and you make a decision that they think is wrong, they see you as losing the game for them (even if you think it was right). Same as sports, but you’re generally playing with random anonymous people online that changes every game, so there’s…
>>>Imagine playing casual pick-up basketball in the park on a team of 5, and you try one play that doesn’t quite work, and your teammates first reaction is to go “Wow you must really suck at basketball to try that!” Or: “Go home and quit, dumbass.” You’d probably feel a little bad, but also just never want to play with that group again. Now imagine 70% of all basketball games you try to play have people yelling at you like that. You’d probably just quit trying to play basketball.
Have you ever played spades, dominos, or hearts? Shit-talking is absolutely part of the experience. Someone who complains about the shit-talking is unlikely to be invited to pull up a chair again. That said, shit-talking is an artform, and simplistic adolescent insults ("Fvk your mother, $ethnicSlur!") are equally frowned upon. I dunno....I'm not sure when our culture got to a point where people couldn't handle regular vitriol with a laconic smile and some verbal barbs of their own. Do they not teach "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me." to kids anymore?
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe because a company like Riot can be held accountable for the poor content of its chats? (in the court of law I'm not sure, but in that of public opinion definitely)
Online chat has been a staple for multiplayer PC games for ages now. Since when has a company been held accountable on a meaningful scale for what happens in chat? (No doubt in my mind that what’s said in chat is called out especially if users aren’t banned) Sure you might get statements like X community is toxic, but that normally stems from more problems then just the game chat of said community.
If nothing else they may be a bit worried about the Chinese government since they're a Tencent subsidiary. There's been some significant pressure on game companies this year.
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is not to shield people from the flame of their opponents. /mute exists, and in fact, you already have to opt in to having /all displayed in the first place. The point of this change is to stop people from engaging . > usually ending any toxicity right there. Nope, nope, nope. This is online arguments 101. Engaging with angry, anonymous, online strangers does not deescalate; it makes them angrier and draws…
> This is, like, the literal number one use of /all. as someone whe spend way to many hours of his life in bronze: yes, it is. [3rd edit or so]: oh, that and "gg easy" which is not a nice thing to say as well.
There might be some variations based on rank here.
Higher ranked people need to have at least some ability to reason about the game and look at (their own) gameplay objectively to improve - even if that ability can get overridden by anger.
They're probably going to be slightly more "tilt resistant" as well.
Additionally I know there's regional differences, because of culture and simply language barriers. Anyone who has heard of korean servers will know what I mean.
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#78Weird how the reaction on HN is so much different from the reaction on reddit where everyone is angry at riot for this decision. I am very much sad to see /all chat go, and I see no reason to remove it since it was already opt in. Most toxicity is in team chat, not all chat. The only "toxicity" in all chat that happens regularly is your own team saying "rep [insert lane]" and a "gg ez" at the end of the game which shouldn't bother anyone sane at this point. Sucks that now will be no way to communicate with the other team except emotes and dances. Stop taking the fun out of the internet, god damn it.
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#79If the game was more enjoyable even when you're losing this would have never been an issue.
If it wasn't so miserable to lose for 30+ minutes, winning wouldn't be so awesome by comparison and no one would participate.
The whole point of the game for many is to get taken for a bit of an unpredictable ride. If it's always going to be fun and easy, the novel experience evaporates.
I think this is on the same spectrum as casual vs hard-core gaming. Casual is always going to feel at least OK, but it's never going to give you that same rush that you get when a single skillshot seals the victory for your team after a sweaty 55 minute slugfest.
Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues
#80As a smite player, I'm just amazed LoL even has this. I don't see what the point would be of letting players interact before the end of the game (and if you really care, /whisper is the tool for you)