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Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by dsego »

Theodores wrote: post #45
elliotf wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an aside, I added vim and vi to the trends, which dwarf the others, but show a long and slow decline for `vi`, but a fairly steady state for `vim`. As a vim user that at times wishes he learned emacs instead of vim, emacs is an interesting trend to see: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q="...

Pode Vim, an album by Pedro Kimura is popular in Brazil. Using git with vim also seems a popular search combo. Personally I am amazed that the younger generation are keen to learn vim. I don't see why as I have gone the other way to only use phpStorm for editing in earnest. For me using vim for code instead of phpStorm is a bit like handwriting instead of typing, a definite loss of formatting and neatness. The reason…

but phpstorm is just for php, right? what if you want to code in some rust, does it support it? with just a few tweaks and packages sublime turns into a half-decent editor for any language and stack.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by joombaga »

Theodores wrote: post #45
elliotf wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an aside, I added vim and vi to the trends, which dwarf the others, but show a long and slow decline for `vi`, but a fairly steady state for `vim`. As a vim user that at times wishes he learned emacs instead of vim, emacs is an interesting trend to see: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q="...

Pode Vim, an album by Pedro Kimura is popular in Brazil. Using git with vim also seems a popular search combo. Personally I am amazed that the younger generation are keen to learn vim. I don't see why as I have gone the other way to only use phpStorm for editing in earnest. For me using vim for code instead of phpStorm is a bit like handwriting instead of typing, a definite loss of formatting and neatness. The reason…

I believe Sublime does offer the brilliance of vim. And I use vim too! They take about the same time to configure to similar levels of usability. Sometimes a more native UI is preferable. Notepad++ has a bit more built-in. There's some Windows particular stuff where I might want that Win 2000 aesthetic. I'm thankful for all the options.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by bastawhiz »

chr1 wrote: post #59
xipho wrote: post #54

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Indeed, but not the whole story ;) https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Would be interesting to know which percentage of vim searches are for vim keybindings in other editors. (i know several people who use vim keybindings, but don't know anywone who uses vim itself)

Or, people searching for how to exit vim.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by mark_l_watson »

Even though VSCode is my main driver, I like textmate for browsing large numbers of files, and emacs for Lisp. When I get back home after my travels I am looking forward to the update.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by elldoubleyew »

chr1 wrote: post #59
xipho wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, but not the whole story ;) https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Would be interesting to know which percentage of vim searches are for vim keybindings in other editors. (i know several people who use vim keybindings, but don't know anywone who uses vim itself)

A little off topic: but when I was in uni our instructors insisted that we use vim for all of our development during the freshman year CS courses. Did everyone actually use it? Of course not, but a significant amount of class time was spent teaching keybindings, macros, etc.

I really built a habit of vanilla vim usage, and to this day I have yet to find a "modern" text editor that really supports everything that vim has to offer i.e. "vim mode" being more than binding the arrow keys to hjkl and providing modes.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by portlander12345 »

xipho wrote: post #54
nimz wrote: post #3

Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Indeed, but not the whole story ;) https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Wow, I had no idea how much the relative stature of Vim and Emacs had changed over my career.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by [deleted] »

xipho wrote: post #54
nimz wrote: post #3

Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Indeed, but not the whole story ;) https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

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Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

arghwhat wrote: post #58
statictype wrote: post #51

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Its native but cross platform so many Mac purists don’t consider it as “native” as TextMate, which is built specifically for the Mac and doesn't compromise on standard Mac UI idioms. Having said that, if they had known all the modern alternatives were going to be even less “native” amd run in a browser engine, they'd probably have been less nitpicky.

Eh, as a macOS user until recently, I found Sublime Text to be a very integrated application. Appearance and behavior was exactly as I'd expect from modern macOS applications. It may not be heavy on archaic Mac features such as AppleScript integration, but I hope we can all agree to ignore those technologies. TextMate just brings memories of the 10.4 Tiger days.

I love Applescript. Not necessarily the language but what you can do with it is great. It's one thing that's keeping me on Mac--there's no Windows equivalent, much less a Linux equivalent. You can kind of hack stuff with Autohotkey but that's not the same thing at all.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

jimmcslim wrote: post #37
snazz wrote: post #7

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It’s possible that native graphical editors will increase in popularity at some point. There’s probably a niche of people who don’t like the potentially poor performance of Electron-based editors but don’t want to learn (or find that they dislike) terminal-based editors like Vim and Emacs. Who knows? Google Trends isn’t an accurate way to tell the popularity of programming languages either.

> It’s possible that native graphical editors will increase in popularity at some point Panic seems prepared to take that bet, with their development of Nova [1], a replacement for Coda. [1] https://www.panic.com/nova/

They seem to be doing okay with Coda already?

Re: TextMate 2.0

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Post by grok2 »

jordwalke wrote: post #52
snazz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s possible that native graphical editors will increase in popularity at some point. There’s probably a niche of people who don’t like the potentially poor performance of Electron-based editors but don’t want to learn (or find that they dislike) terminal-based editors like Vim and Emacs. Who knows? Google Trends isn’t an accurate way to tell the popularity of programming languages either.

You might like to follow OniVim2: https://onivim.io It is native, cross platform, and not based on Electron. It also uses Vim as the core editing engine.

If not Electron, is it native or does it use some other web engine?
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