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Re: TextMate 2.0

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Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

I hope sublime doesn't die off (or fade into obscurity)

Re: TextMate 2.0

#42
post #39
post #3

Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

As an aside, I added vim and vi to the trends, which dwarf the others, but show a long and slow decline for `vi`, but a fairly steady state for `vim`. As a vim user that at times wishes he learned emacs instead of vim, emacs is an interesting trend to see: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q="...

Keep in mind that "vi" has meaning outside of text editors.

Re: TextMate 2.0

#44
post #7

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It’s possible that native graphical editors will increase in popularity at some point. There’s probably a niche of people who don’t like the potentially poor performance of Electron-based editors but don’t want to learn (or find that they dislike) terminal-based editors like Vim and Emacs. Who knows? Google Trends isn’t an accurate way to tell the popularity of programming languages either.

> It’s possible that native graphical editors will increase in popularity at some point Panic seems prepared to take that bet, with their development of Nova [1], a replacement for Coda. [1] https://www.panic.com/nova/

It better be way, way better than Sublime Text is the plan is to charge Panic prices. Their apps are best of breed but this is a crowded space and they’re competing with free.

Re: TextMate 2.0

#45
post #39
post #3

Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

As an aside, I added vim and vi to the trends, which dwarf the others, but show a long and slow decline for `vi`, but a fairly steady state for `vim`. As a vim user that at times wishes he learned emacs instead of vim, emacs is an interesting trend to see: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q="...

Pode Vim, an album by Pedro Kimura is popular in Brazil.

Using git with vim also seems a popular search combo.

Personally I am amazed that the younger generation are keen to learn vim. I don't see why as I have gone the other way to only use phpStorm for editing in earnest. For me using vim for code instead of phpStorm is a bit like handwriting instead of typing, a definite loss of formatting and neatness.

The reason I find modern interest in vim so amusing is that there is no compelling excuse to use it. In the olden days when you had to queue to use a terminal in a computer room to enter code you had handwritten on paper there were no 'nano' or other editors, you had to learn and use vi.

I don't believe vi is quicker than a full size IDE but I still use vi, find and grep because I don't fully trust these new IDE tools and I am fairly dyed in the wool as a command line user.

The tools I don't fully understand are the textmate, sublime, notepad++ and other middling editors that don't offer the brilliance of vim or the possibilities of a phpStorm grade editor.

Re: TextMate 2.0

#46
post #3

Great to hear and congratulations to the team. Amazing persistence. I used to be a huge Textmate fan - it was so revolutionary in its time. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. The Google Trends comparison of Textmate, Sublime Text and VS Code tells the story: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

I hope sublime doesn't die off (or fade into obscurity)

I’m afraid that ship has sailed.

Re: TextMate 2.0

#47
post #20

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Dominance of the text editor market. TextMate was pretty meh, Coda I tried and thought was ridiculously overpriced for its total lack of features. Sublime was great for its time, I even paid for a license, but Atom is just too good for its value (free). But apparently VS Code is becoming extremely popular. I wonder if its literally just because of GitLens (still missing from other text editors). Disclaimer: RubyMine…

I do most of my development work in Jetbrains IDEs and am a huge fan but if you don't keep the environment open 100% of the time it takes a long time to bootstrap. texmate is great for fast one offs

So keep it open all the time? Are you really working on more than one serious project at a time?

I use Atom for my quickie projects here and there, but you really can't beat an IDE. (IMO)

Re: TextMate 2.0

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post #26
post #11

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Sublime Text, is native, isn't? Sure, much of the API and all the plugin stuff is in Python, but the core is all native C++ AFAIK.

It’s also declining according to the chart, but you’re right that it’s both native and way more popular than TextMate.

I found that ggl trends graphs for tech topics usually decline over time and I attribute it to more non-technical crowd becoming netizens and thus technical topics will usually seem declining.

Re: TextMate 2.0

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I have also been happily using TextMate 2.0 throughout the beta and can confirm that it's been stable and fast.

Surprisingly, my 15-year-old license is still considered valid

Re: TextMate 2.0

#50
post #46

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I hope sublime doesn't die off (or fade into obscurity)

I’m afraid that ship has sailed.

I believe the uptake of typed langs (typescript) is what drives peeps to look beyond sublime.
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