Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

torrentfreak.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 142 posts

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#71

Post by nulbyte »

dingaling wrote: post #54
realusername wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have plenty of private boards with absolutely everything you want.

I think that's a type of self-constructed self-assuring extrapolation. The concept that because the things that one individual wants are available, surely all things for all individuals are available. Looking at my paper books; Pooley's Flight Guide 1985; FIDO - Flying Through Fog; The Engineering History of the North of Ireland. Just three volumes out of thousands that are slowly slipping into oblivion. The long tai…

GP did say "absolutely everything." Surely the intent was that "all things for all individuals are available."

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#73

Post by save_ferris »

rel2thr wrote: post #72

I’m surprised reddit let’s the sports stream subreddits stay up. These are kind of going mainstream and must be a huge thorn in the side of cable companies

They started cracking down on the soccer stream subs a few months ago, but I'm not sure why they haven't followed suit on the American sports streams.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#74

Post by Majestic121 »

m-p-3 wrote: post #60

I have an IPFS archive available here, feel free to pin it to your node. https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRHpZXaUJS5Mc4P2xG6yLckHKsY88BASLLWz7Q...

It seems that links all point to the original website, not an IPFS copy.

As a result, you'd still lose a lot of content, for example all the images stored in imgur. Is there a way to solve this ?

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#75

Post by alexcason »

save_ferris wrote: post #73
rel2thr wrote: post #72

I’m surprised reddit let’s the sports stream subreddits stay up. These are kind of going mainstream and must be a huge thorn in the side of cable companies

They started cracking down on the soccer stream subs a few months ago, but I'm not sure why they haven't followed suit on the American sports streams.

RIP r/soccerstreams

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#76

Post by bloopernova »

icebraining wrote: post #25
seszett wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're suggesting that Donald Trump has some connection with the bans of controversial subreddits I think you're wrong, since the one big ban of fatpeoplehate, shitniggerssay and a few other controversial subreddits happened in 2015, a full year before Donald Trump's election.

/r/jailbait and a few related subreddits were closed way back in 2011.

And while they are less popular, there definitely are still subreddits dedicated to "legal aged women who look like very young teenagers wink wink" content, with rules that are entirely designed to argue the letter of the law so they don't get banned.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#77

Post by kriro »

Asooka wrote: post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

Humans learn by copying and adapting. Pretty awesome culture we'd have if artists and musicians of days past would have to jump through DMCA-hoops.

I can picture it...sorry Mr. Picasso great artists don't steal...they go straight to jail. Besides, your art ain't all that. Mr. Mozart, we are sorry to inform you that Symphony No. 37 violates Mr. Haydn's intellectual property and has to be removed from the musical canons for all eternity (just like pretty much all of Mr. Händel's work)

Arguably the greatest US piece of music culture (Jazz) would be banned completely because it's the worst possibly offense. Live streaming piracy with no shame.

etc. pp.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#78

Post by klntsky »

mikekchar wrote: post #63
klntsky wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. The more damage copyright holders do to the public, the more people understand why the idea of owning ideas is stupid.

This is a common misunderstanding. Copyright does not allow you to own an idea -- there is nothing in the law to allow that. Instead it gives you a right to copy something. Specifically, it gives you an exclusive right. When people talk about "intellectual property" the are referring to owning rights with respect to some intellectual concept, not owning the intellectual concept itself. The very common confusion that…

Copyright is not a property right, but it relates to ideas the same as property right relates to real life objects: both define what one can do with the subject. IMHO, one of the reasons why the copyright has gained success is because of existing cognitive bias[0]: people desire to treat ideas like physical objects, or as close to that as possible, because they have no other concept of what ideas are. I sometimes use figures of speech like "to own an idea" as a way to say the above succinctly, though it is indeed confusing when interpreted literally.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#79

Post by black_puppydog »

Some of r/Piracy seems to be willing to play with more p2p solutions. If you're willing to sacrifice archival properties (like the last ten years woth of stuff...) then even an IRC channel might do. Some people are playing with scuttlebutt/ssb, and frankly I don't see why that wouldn't be a good fit, assuming you handle your feed with a bit of care if you want to stay anonymous.

Edit: of course, not everyone is happy about this. There is definitely a culture mismatch between most of the (current) ssb community and r/piracy.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

#80

Post by [deleted] »

morganvachon wrote: post #62
klntsky wrote: post #26

/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control. So they are not "victims", just a bit inconsiderate. And there is no reason to blame reddit, or anyone, for the deletion. They are not obliged to provide their service to anyone.

I don't go on /r/Piracy, but from my understanding there were already rules in place, and heavily enforced, about not linking to infringing content, and it was supposed to be just a place to discuss piracy. How is simple discussion of a topic infringing at all? How did they deserve this purge? It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. You should be ashamed.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN