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Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Well Apple can start by making Siri work locally/without internet and then I believe their stance.

I believe the "hey Siri" wake up works locally. For the rest that seems complicated as many of the questions you ask Siri requires Siri to fetch something online to find the response

"hey Siri"

- I'm sorry Dave, I don't have a network connection, I cannot respond to you.

"But you just did."

- I'm sorry Dave, I didn't understand you.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#72

Hi Apple. Please: • add VPN on/off to control center • allow per-app VPN via Apple Configurator, without enterprise MDM • once the above two are available, we can use Tor, IDS, DPI or pihole on a per-application basis, to reduce data harvesting • bonus1: allow the open-source iOS MDM community OR the iOS Shortcuts community to make it easy for novice users to have one-click install of "privacy-plus configurations" •…

You're addressing the technical problem but Tim Cook is addressing the political problem, which is more effective at tackling the root causes.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#73

Hi Apple. Please: • add VPN on/off to control center • allow per-app VPN via Apple Configurator, without enterprise MDM • once the above two are available, we can use Tor, IDS, DPI or pihole on a per-application basis, to reduce data harvesting • bonus1: allow the open-source iOS MDM community OR the iOS Shortcuts community to make it easy for novice users to have one-click install of "privacy-plus configurations" •…

…did you just reply to your own comment?

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Is that the same type of moral speech as he did when he said "Privacy is fundamental human right" and then gave keys to iCloud to Chinese government some time later? He's a CEO of a multi-billion publicly traded corporation. Content warning applies for everything he (or any such CEO/PR service) says.

Apple's stance has been completely consistent. They comply with the law while making their ethical beliefs and stance as a company clear where they disagree with it. What do you suggest Apple should do instead of comply with the law? Require it's employees to incriminate themselves?

I agree, and you can also tell that Apple is on the right side of this because of that FBI phone unlocking case. Apple fought the government tooth and nail, and they made it literally impossible to do for later models of phones. That whole incident really impressed me.

Of the "giant evil megacorporations that will dominate our cyberpunk future", I think Apple has slightly more moral sense and backbone compared to Google and Facebook. Not much, but it's something.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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post #69

I originally took this opportunity to critique the idea that Cook can stand to take a strong stance on privacy because their business model relies on selling an actual product and said product can only be affordable if you leverage cheap labor (and given historical context: very questionable working conditions). However, for the sake of maintaining consistency with the article and staying relevant I have revised this…

You're mistaking Apple for Hooli.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has had stripped-down versions of this before on both iOS and macOS via Voice Control.

There's a big difference between recognizing "open the photos app, computer" and "what times is the avenger's showing today, Siri?"

How do you plan to get the Avengers showtimes without connecting to the internet?

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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I have owned couple of google phones (Nexus and Pixel). Today for the first time ever I am considering buying an iPhone. I would pay premium for privacy on Google devices if they make it available. And we now know what the price is - $40 in EU. Just sell it like this Google.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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First response: This sounds good, maybe I should consider Apple for my next device? Second response: Was undermining Google the reason he held the speech in the first place?

I hope Google will at least analyze the idea of privacy, analyze what data they collect and if all of it needs to be collected or kept, when someone suggests let's collect everything there(and in other companies) should be some debate there before is implemented.

Google sets a pretty good standard over at https://myactivity.google.com/ IMO. But yeah the whole passive data collection e.g Wifi networks done the Street View cars, as one example, bears scrutiny. Likewise Android
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