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What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by macintux »

Peyphour wrote: post #67
macintux wrote: post #56

Despite never enabling location services, Facebook once (briefly) gave me a weather forecast when I was traveling. Spooked me quite a bit. The best I could figure is that I temporarily enabled access to my camera roll so I could post a few photos (ordinarily I just copy/paste them to keep Facebook out of my photos), and either it scanned the photos' exif data during upload or directly from the roll once I enabled it.…

Could just be IP geolocation

Geo IP location is possible but unlikely: the location was very precise and accurate, and I would assume Verizon (wasn't on wifi) wouldn't be handing out IPs with that level of specificity.

Plus it only ever happened that once.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by tlb »

richardfeynman wrote: post #68
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

"But 'Download Your Data' hardly tells you everything Facebook knows about you. Among the information not included: - information Facebook collects about your browsing history; - information Facebook collects about the apps you visit and your activity within those apps; - the advertisers who uploaded your contact information to Facebook more than two months earlier; - ads that you interacted with more than two months…

PSA: Facebook looks at what websites you visit in an incognito window, provided that the incognito window is open the same time as a regular browser.

How does it do this?

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by lucb1e »

y4mi wrote: post #53
jononor wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean not from USA? The legislation going into action May 25 is GDPR which applies to those in EU

Yeah, this comment thread is strange. Most eu Nations don't have anything like a class action suit...

This is confusing me as well about this subthread.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by jimbobimbo »

908087 wrote: post #44
fortythirteen wrote: post #29

> Wikileaks, Julian Assange, and alt-right provocateurs recommend giving it a whirl. Classic guilt-by-association propaganda technique.

I really can't even figure out what posessed the writer to put that line in there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the story, and kind of comes out of nowhere.

This is how Wired rolls lately, unfortunately. I'm a subscriber and noticed that even innocuous articles frequently attempt a jab at Trump, for example. I really don't understand attempts to politicize all issues, when it's not called for.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by 908087 »

josefresco wrote: post #57
908087 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really can't even figure out what posessed the writer to put that line in there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the story, and kind of comes out of nowhere.

The author linked to Tweets from said individuals who were mentioning the tool. So it's relevant, however a bit odd they chose those specific examples when I'm sure they're are other "celebrities" who also linked to the tool. Maybe the author thought of these people as those most interested in data privacy?

It seemed like both an attempt to associate Assange/Wikileaks with the "alt-right", and an attempt to associate the desire to find out what Facebook has on you with the same.

It felt forced and awkward in the context of the article.

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Post by richardfeynman »

tlb wrote: post #72
richardfeynman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PSA: Facebook looks at what websites you visit in an incognito window, provided that the incognito window is open the same time as a regular browser.

How does it do this?

Apparently, incognito mode uses the same temporary cookies folder as regular chrome, so FB looks at this folder if incognito is open in one window while FB is being used in another.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Spivak »

jotato wrote: post #58
matlock wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What is more probable is tha FB will try a legal trick claiming they are an American company and they follow the laws of California, not EU, even if they gladly accept European advertisers's money via Ireland" That is specifically not possible under GDPR. It doesn't matter where your company sits, if you store data from europeans (or people living in europe) you have to follow the GDPR with potential for severe puni…

How can the EU punish a business with no EU location? An American company is not bound by another countries laws

A company is bound by the laws of every country it does business in under threat of not being able to continue doing business there.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Spivak »

amelius wrote: post #8

An important omission is the data that Facebook collected on you using browser fingerprinting. Since a fingerprint is like a hash, it is theoretically impossible for Facebook to determine if the data really belongs to you, or to someone else who happened to have the same browser fingerprint. This means that if Facebook is legally obliged to offer a complete user data download, then the practice of fingerprinting is i…

I don't think fingerprinting in the interesting target here -- it's whether anything derived from somoene's data is part of their data and if so where the boundaries are.

* Can I use differential privacy? Can a user request a correction to such a dataset?

* If I train a ML model on some user data what responsibility do I have with acquisition or deletion?

* Can I anonymize my data-sets?

* How do I handle aggregate statistics?

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by aukiman »

mtremsal wrote: post #18

Thought experiment: if after 5/25, I download my data, then revoke consent and delete my account, then a while later reactivate my account and log back in -- if any of my previous personal data is tied to my "new" account, have I proven that my personal data wasn't entirely deleted since Facebook could still uniquely identify me?

I'd say that assumption would be correct. Otherwise they have access to some serious non-facebook metadata repository! But then again how would they assume it was you without a trace of the former data.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by JoshMnem »

richardfeynman wrote: post #76
tlb wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does it do this?

Apparently, incognito mode uses the same temporary cookies folder as regular chrome, so FB looks at this folder if incognito is open in one window while FB is being used in another.

Are you sure about that? Wouldn't it mean that all third party trackers could continue to track you while in incognito mode? How could it be called incognito mode if sites can still read your non-incognito cookies?
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