What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data” • Hacker News Board

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by btilly » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

jotato wrote: post #58

matlock wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What is more probable is tha FB will try a legal trick claiming they are an American company and they follow the laws of California, not EU, even if they gladly accept European advertisers's money via Ireland" That is specifically not possible under GDPR. It doesn't matter where your company sits, if you store data from europeans (or people living in europe) you have to follow the GDPR with potential for severe puni…

How can the EU punish a business with no EU location? An American company is not bound by another countries laws

If you do business within a country and that country rules against you, they can certainly stop you doing business within that country.

They can also file a case in the country that you do belong you to get you to pay your fines in the original country. This sometimes works.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by fortythirteen » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

josefresco wrote: post #57

908087 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really can't even figure out what posessed the writer to put that line in there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the story, and kind of comes out of nowhere.

The author linked to Tweets from said individuals who were mentioning the tool. So it's relevant, however a bit odd they chose those specific examples when I'm sure they're are other "celebrities" who also linked to the tool. Maybe the author thought of these people as those most interested in data privacy?

I'm not so sure, considering how their coverage of the DNC lawsuit read like a press release, with zero journalistic objectivity. It treated the currently unproven claims of a civil suit as if it was already assumed fact.[0] It contains this gem of a paragraph:

> The leaks continued steadily from there, as the suit details. Guccifer 2.0 struck again on June 27, June 30, and July 6. On July 22, WikiLeaks took the wheel, releasing nearly 20,000 internal DNC emails. The following day, according to the suit, multiple DNC employees received an email that said: “I hope your children get raped and murdered. I hope your family knows nothing but suffering, torture, and death.”

All evidence suggests, as Wikileaks has maintained, that their emails came from a physical source, and not Guccifer 2.0.

I think there is a larger editorial bias at play at Wired.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/dnc-lawsuit-reveals-key-details-...

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by whyever » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:22 PM UTC

I'm surprised this article does not mention Max Schrems, who requested all data Facebook had on him in 2011:

> He later made a request under the European "right to access" provision for the company's records on him and received a CD containing over 1,200 pages of data, which he published at europe-v-facebook.org with personal information redacted.

(See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems.)

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by killjoywashere » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:44 PM UTC

21 wrote: post #36

killjoywashere wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What timezone are we using for this? Is it midnight Zulu on the 25th, the 26th?

FFS, just delete it on 27

Sorry, I'm not hip to most of this stuff. I just thought it would be a fun event. Perhaps it's already on the social media calendar, complete with a cat logo?

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by k_lander » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:45 PM UTC

macintux wrote: post #56

Despite never enabling location services, Facebook once (briefly) gave me a weather forecast when I was traveling. Spooked me quite a bit. The best I could figure is that I temporarily enabled access to my camera roll so I could post a few photos (ordinarily I just copy/paste them to keep Facebook out of my photos), and either it scanned the photos' exif data during upload or directly from the roll once I enabled it.…

Makes me wonder how many "features" considered internally at FB, Google, etc are being scrapped only because it would not be worth the risk of potential backlash by spooked out users even though they have in their possession all the necessary data.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by supercarsw » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 5:49 PM UTC

why people still uses facebook ? how much you want to disclose your life to them ?

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Peyphour » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:08 PM UTC

macintux wrote: post #56

Despite never enabling location services, Facebook once (briefly) gave me a weather forecast when I was traveling. Spooked me quite a bit. The best I could figure is that I temporarily enabled access to my camera roll so I could post a few photos (ordinarily I just copy/paste them to keep Facebook out of my photos), and either it scanned the photos' exif data during upload or directly from the roll once I enabled it.…

Could just be IP geolocation

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by richardfeynman » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:22 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

"But 'Download Your Data' hardly tells you everything Facebook knows about you. Among the information not included: - information Facebook collects about your browsing history; - information Facebook collects about the apps you visit and your activity within those apps; - the advertisers who uploaded your contact information to Facebook more than two months earlier; - ads that you interacted with more than two months…

PSA: Facebook looks at what websites you visit in an incognito window, provided that the incognito window is open the same time as a regular browser.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by gregsadetsky » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:24 PM UTC

macintux wrote: post #56

Despite never enabling location services, Facebook once (briefly) gave me a weather forecast when I was traveling. Spooked me quite a bit. The best I could figure is that I temporarily enabled access to my camera roll so I could post a few photos (ordinarily I just copy/paste them to keep Facebook out of my photos), and either it scanned the photos' exif data during upload or directly from the roll once I enabled it.…

in addition to that, wouldn't it have access to the MAC addresses of the wifi networks around you, and more importantly, be able to do a geo-ip check?

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by macintux » Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:40 PM UTC

gregsadetsky wrote: post #69

macintux wrote: post #56

Despite never enabling location services, Facebook once (briefly) gave me a weather forecast when I was traveling. Spooked me quite a bit. The best I could figure is that I temporarily enabled access to my camera roll so I could post a few photos (ordinarily I just copy/paste them to keep Facebook out of my photos), and either it scanned the photos' exif data during upload or directly from the roll once I enabled it.…

in addition to that, wouldn't it have access to the MAC addresses of the wifi networks around you, and more importantly, be able to do a geo-ip check?

Wouldn't have access to MAC addresses.

Geo IP location is possible but unlikely: the location was very precise and accurate, and I would assume Verizon (wasn't on wifi) wouldn't be handing out IPs with that level of specificity.

Plus it only ever happened that once.