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Re: The iPhone X

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Post by willtim »

roc wrote: post #41
willtim wrote: post #34

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Perhaps one might admit that Apple are late to the game with OLED and edge-to-edge displays?

Admit? Like it's a secret he's trying to cover up? Apple people simply don't care. They know Apple's "late." (Inasmuch as someone else has done a similar thing, or used a similar piece of tech "first".) Because Apple is almost always late. Late to touch. Late to smartphones. Late to fingerprint readers. Late to face identification. Late to attention detection. Late to wireless charging. Late to big screens. Late to m…

I agree, but he attempts to shame other firms when they decide to copy something from Apple. He comes across as a hypocrite.

Personally I find many of Apples "innovations" abhorrent and it frustrates me that they have been universally copied. They have popularised disposable, unrepairable, slippery, ultra-fragile phones!

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by mcphage »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #68
mcphage wrote: post #64

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You seem to have missed the part of your own post—the one you're commenting on a reply to—where you stated "I've seen Thurrot recommend products from more than one company. Gruber, never."

You seem to be more interested in pedantry than in understanding the point of the post, which you've conceded. To be extra pedantic, none of your examples show Gruber recommending a non-Apple product at all. At most, Gruber concludes that they have some useful features. When he writes about the Echo, he writes about how Apple will do it better. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/12/26/wynn-echo https://daringfire…

> You seem to be more interested in pedantry than in understanding the point of the post, which you've conceded.

Yes, I am interested in responding to what you actually said. Sorry if you can't handle that. I'm going to ignore you from now on.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jsgo »

pvinis wrote: post #49
jsgo wrote: post #44

All in all, I'm pleased with the phone. There are some things that are pretty rough, though, and that compensating for the removal of the home button has caused a glaring problem. Shutdown being the biggest one so far for me. The Konami code that you have to enter in order to initiate getting the slider to appear is nothing short of amazing. I'm hoping at some point a button to activate the slider ends up in Control…

By "Konami code", do you mean lock button + volume up button? I mean I understand it is hard- er , but I wouldn't call it hard.

for me, volume up + lock button typically fires off a screenshot even if unintended. I use tap volume up -> tap volume down -> hold lock button.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jsgo »

jonknee wrote: post #46
jsgo wrote: post #44

All in all, I'm pleased with the phone. There are some things that are pretty rough, though, and that compensating for the removal of the home button has caused a glaring problem. Shutdown being the biggest one so far for me. The Konami code that you have to enter in order to initiate getting the slider to appear is nothing short of amazing. I'm hoping at some point a button to activate the slider ends up in Control…

I agree Control Center would be a good place to put it, but how often do you turn off your phone?

situational. This morning I had to power it off because even cycling airplane mode wouldn't get Music to download music from iTunes Match. Powered off, powered on and it was working again.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by lern_too_spel »

mcphage wrote: post #72
lern_too_spel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be more interested in pedantry than in understanding the point of the post, which you've conceded. To be extra pedantic, none of your examples show Gruber recommending a non-Apple product at all. At most, Gruber concludes that they have some useful features. When he writes about the Echo, he writes about how Apple will do it better. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/12/26/wynn-echo https://daringfire…

> You seem to be more interested in pedantry than in understanding the point of the post, which you've conceded. Yes, I am interested in responding to what you actually said . Sorry if you can't handle that. I'm going to ignore you from now on.

> Yes, I am interested in responding to what you actually said.

Then it's a wonder how you failed so spectacularly at it. What I actually said consists of multiple sentences that must be taken together, and even the portion you extracted contains the word "recommend," which is a word you don't seem to understand.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by bsaul »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #70
bsaul wrote: post #21

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That’s where we are now. We integrated sponsored content so much, that we don’t even get angry when some bloggers, writing under his own personal name, seems to have been paid to write a piece of ad, in what is supposed to be a personnal opinion. This whole culture needs to go down the sh_tter. We tolerate youtubers lying about things they like, bloggers lying about their own opinions, companies hidding abusive condi…

This isn't about being paid. Gruber has too much integrity to do such a thing and a serious journalist would never risk their reputation. What Gruber isn't above is heavily criticizing Apple for fear of getting blacklisted because, for a pro Apple blogger, that would be a death sentence.

The crux of the matter is : does he say what he thinks is the truth, or not. And if not, is it for any reason other than money ?

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by dgreensp »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

Waaaay over the top with glowing, hyperbolic language about how the X truly, truly this time “reinvents” the iPhone in a way unlike any device has ever been reinvented.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jgruber »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #47
dpcx wrote: post #9

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While it does read as a fanboy article, Gruber has criticized Apple at least a few times in the past. Here's one example, in particular. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/04/08/snell-3d-touch

Until he says Apple screwed up so bad that he recommends another company's product, he can only be called a shill.

Which products do you think I should recommend a competing product over Apple's? On phones, tablets, and computers, I personally much prefer Apple's OSes, and I usually prefer their hardware as well. But even when I don't prefer Apple's hardware, the OS wins out.

I don't recommend Apple's wi-fi base stations: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1370753

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jgruber »

mikestew wrote: post #31
brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

My take on Gruber is to not take him seriously. Don't take his recommendations, he'll flip on a dime. For example, when the Pebble was announced he was first in line on the Kickstarter. It shipped, he liked it. As soon as the Apple Watch came out, the Pebble was suddenly a piece of shit. I'm also convinced that he recommends things that he's either never used, or took money to recommend. An outstanding example is a w…

I don't recall ever overly praising the Pebble. Here's everything I've ever written about Pebble:

https://daringfireball.net/search/pebble

I really only wore mine for about a week, finding it more annoying than useful. As I stated here: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2015/02/24/pebble-time

I like Apple Watch, but only as one of several watches I own. The others are mechanical, not digital.

I don't know which weather app you're talking about, but I've never recommended anything I haven't used, and the only posts I get paid for are the once-a-week sponsorships, which are always clearly noted as being sponsored.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jgruber »

doe88 wrote: post #54
mikestew wrote: post #31

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My take on Gruber is to not take him seriously. Don't take his recommendations, he'll flip on a dime. For example, when the Pebble was announced he was first in line on the Kickstarter. It shipped, he liked it. As soon as the Apple Watch came out, the Pebble was suddenly a piece of shit. I'm also convinced that he recommends things that he's either never used, or took money to recommend. An outstanding example is a w…

I don't have anything against him, I think in the iPhone X case he might deservedly be lauding Apple, their phone genuinely seems good. But more to your point, concerning watches I remember that for months on his podcast he was dismissive of the then rumored/speculated Apple Watch form factor altogether, he thought that if anything it would be more like a fitness tracker, and obviously once it became reality he uncon…

I think I missed the mark in several ways with my review of the original Apple Watch, but I complained strenuously about the fact that the display doesn't always show the time -- something I'm used to because I've worn a traditional watch since I was in middle school. I think I complained about not being able to read the display in sunlight too. The gist of my review -- and I still think this today -- is that Apple Watch is good at doing several new things (notifications and fitness tracking) but isn't as good as a traditional watch at traditional watch things (showing the time and date continuously).
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