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Re: The iPhone X

#41

Post by roc »

willtim wrote: post #34
Brendinooo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were to write a review of a product you really liked, how would you do it differently?

Perhaps one might admit that Apple are late to the game with OLED and edge-to-edge displays?

Admit? Like it's a secret he's trying to cover up?

Apple people simply don't care. They know Apple's "late." (Inasmuch as someone else has done a similar thing, or used a similar piece of tech "first".) Because Apple is almost always late.

Late to touch. Late to smartphones. Late to fingerprint readers. Late to face identification. Late to attention detection. Late to wireless charging. Late to big screens. Late to music streaming. Late to video services. Late to the TV. Late to the wrist. Late to the wireless headphones. etc.

Re: The iPhone X

#42

Post by jsjohnst »

willtim wrote: post #34
Brendinooo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were to write a review of a product you really liked, how would you do it differently?

Perhaps one might admit that Apple are late to the game with OLED and edge-to-edge displays?

Apple is almost never early to a market, so why call it out specifically that “business as usual on timing”. We can debate if they are successful or not (I waffle myself), but they’ve not prided on being first, but rather being better.

Re: The iPhone X

#43

Post by strictnein »

jsjohnst wrote: post #42
willtim wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps one might admit that Apple are late to the game with OLED and edge-to-edge displays?

Apple is almost never early to a market, so why call it out specifically that “business as usual on timing”. We can debate if they are successful or not (I waffle myself), but they’ve not prided on being first , but rather being better .

You must have missed a decade+ of Apple talking about how everyone copies them?

Example: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/photo...

Re: The iPhone X

#44

Post by jsgo »

All in all, I'm pleased with the phone. There are some things that are pretty rough, though, and that compensating for the removal of the home button has caused a glaring problem. Shutdown being the biggest one so far for me. The Konami code that you have to enter in order to initiate getting the slider to appear is nothing short of amazing. I'm hoping at some point a button to activate the slider ends up in Control Center.

Re: The iPhone X

#45

Post by jonknee »

willtim wrote: post #34
Brendinooo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were to write a review of a product you really liked, how would you do it differently?

Perhaps one might admit that Apple are late to the game with OLED and edge-to-edge displays?

What does that have to do with liking the product? If an Android phone ships with a FaceID like feature, it's OK to just like it and not be sad that it wasn't the first phone with it.

Re: The iPhone X

#46

Post by jonknee »

jsgo wrote: post #44

All in all, I'm pleased with the phone. There are some things that are pretty rough, though, and that compensating for the removal of the home button has caused a glaring problem. Shutdown being the biggest one so far for me. The Konami code that you have to enter in order to initiate getting the slider to appear is nothing short of amazing. I'm hoping at some point a button to activate the slider ends up in Control…

I agree Control Center would be a good place to put it, but how often do you turn off your phone?

Re: The iPhone X

#47

Post by lern_too_spel »

dpcx wrote: post #9
brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

While it does read as a fanboy article, Gruber has criticized Apple at least a few times in the past. Here's one example, in particular. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/04/08/snell-3d-touch

Until he says Apple screwed up so bad that he recommends another company's product, he can only be called a shill.

Re: The iPhone X

#48

Post by lern_too_spel »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #28
mcphage wrote: post #22

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> This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. Agreed... this was the most Gruber-y he's ever Grubered: "Is the higher price of the iPhone X over the iPhones 8 justified? [...] But you also get something you can’t compare in a checkmark comparison — a sort of joie de vivre ." > I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to. That's definitely not true. While he gen…

There was some stretch of time where I'd visit his blog once every week or so and catch up. He has a tendency to take Apple flaws and spin them as good things. Even when he does criticize Apple it's only half heartedly. I'm not sure who wins the spin competition between him and Paul Thurrott

Definitely Gruber. I've seen Thurrot recommend products from more than one company. Gruber, never. If Apple has a product in the space, only the Apple product is worth buying, no matter how objectively bad it is.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by pvinis »

jsgo wrote: post #44

All in all, I'm pleased with the phone. There are some things that are pretty rough, though, and that compensating for the removal of the home button has caused a glaring problem. Shutdown being the biggest one so far for me. The Konami code that you have to enter in order to initiate getting the slider to appear is nothing short of amazing. I'm hoping at some point a button to activate the slider ends up in Control…

By "Konami code", do you mean lock button + volume up button?

I mean I understand it is hard-er, but I wouldn't call it hard.

Re: The iPhone X

#50

Post by mcphage »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #48
brian-armstrong wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was some stretch of time where I'd visit his blog once every week or so and catch up. He has a tendency to take Apple flaws and spin them as good things. Even when he does criticize Apple it's only half heartedly. I'm not sure who wins the spin competition between him and Paul Thurrott

Definitely Gruber. I've seen Thurrot recommend products from more than one company. Gruber, never. If Apple has a product in the space, only the Apple product is worth buying, no matter how objectively bad it is.

> I've seen Thurrot recommend products from more than one company. Gruber, never.

That's also definitely not true. He's been a big supporter of Amazon's Echo line, he's mentioned a number of Android phones he likes—hell, on his front page right now he links glowingly to an article about how much better Google Maps is than Apple Maps.

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