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Re: The iPhone X

#31

Post by mikestew »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

My take on Gruber is to not take him seriously. Don't take his recommendations, he'll flip on a dime. For example, when the Pebble was announced he was first in line on the Kickstarter. It shipped, he liked it. As soon as the Apple Watch came out, the Pebble was suddenly a piece of shit.

I'm also convinced that he recommends things that he's either never used, or took money to recommend. An outstanding example is a weather app he gushed about that I'm convinced he never used because it was horrible (as in, the forecasts weren't even close), and the visual design was something he'd typically tear into.

For me, Gruber is in the "Dvorak/Cringley" bucket: entertaining, sometimes on point, but for $DEITY's sake don't take it for gospel. But despite all that, I read every post.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by eyko »

tobix wrote: post #24

"And for reasons I’ve never been able to understand, Android handset makers seem willing to copy everything and anything from Apple they can get away with... but none have copied the iPhone’s mute switch, despite the fact that it’s a brilliant idea." OnePlus 5 and onwards? Although I think it may be the only Android phone to have one.

In fact, OnePlus 2 and onwards!

Re: The iPhone X

#33

Post by lnx01 »

hungerstrike wrote: post #17

There's so much to hate about the iPhone X - I'm glad it's failing because I never want to see another phone like it again. My biggest gripes are that I like buttons (even the fake iPhone 7 home button is better than swiping) and I like rectangular screens without notches in them. I also think Face ID is a terrible idea with no future. I predicted (and got downvoted here on HN) that it would fail miserably - and it d…

It's not failing though, it's selling more than its stable brethren combined: https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/26/iphone-x-outperformed-by-8-an...

Re: The iPhone X

#35

Post by stcredzero »

mikestew wrote: post #31
brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

My take on Gruber is to not take him seriously. Don't take his recommendations, he'll flip on a dime. For example, when the Pebble was announced he was first in line on the Kickstarter. It shipped, he liked it. As soon as the Apple Watch came out, the Pebble was suddenly a piece of shit. I'm also convinced that he recommends things that he's either never used, or took money to recommend. An outstanding example is a w…

It shipped, he liked it. As soon as the Apple Watch came out, the Pebble was suddenly a piece of shit.

Isn't that how it works? My 15" GTX 1070 laptop used to be the bees knees. So amazing and compact for a laptop that could support VR. Now, in comparison to some stunning Max-Q designs, it's now pretty meh.

Re: The iPhone X

#36

Post by mikewhy »

This bit especially irked me:

"In iOS 11 X, almost every role of the home button has been subsumed by the display, with the remainder reassigned to the side button:

- Wake the device: tap the display.

- Go to the home screen: short swipe up from the bottom of display.

- Go to the multitasking switcher: longer swipe up from the bottom.

- Even better way to multitask: just swipe sideways on the home indicator.

- Accessibility shortcut: triple-click the side button.

- Authenticate: just look at the display.

- Reachability: swipe down on the bottom edge of display.

- Siri: press-and-hold side button."

5 out of 8 of those things are already achieved without the home button since the 6S.

Re: The iPhone X

#37

Post by nkristoffersen »

arielm wrote: post #5

This is a beautiful way of looking at the X from a very zoomed out perspective. To an extent, I agree with much of what’s said and felt the same way when starting to use my X. But, and this is the important but here, we’re existing users. I saw iPhones develop over time, so for me this is evolution and I put up with it. But what about new users, that are new to the platform. Apple made some interactions so unintuitiv…

I've had the X for a few days now. The animation to press the physical button totally had me stumped the first few times! Overall I'm a fan (such as great camera and great screen) but some of the new interactions are taking some getting used to.

Re: The iPhone X

#38

Post by breatheoften »

How did the move of the sleep/wake button from the top to side EVER get approved ...? I’ve been ranting about this since the iPhone 6... I can’t count the number of times I’ve:

- inadvertently activated Siri while reaching blindly for my phone

- put the phone to sleep when trying to use the hardware shutter button while taking a picture

I don’t understand how this flaw has escaped widespread criticism...

Re: The iPhone X

#39

Post by jsgo »

mitchty wrote: post #29
randomsearch wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would agree with this summary. I think Apple knocked it out of the park this time, confounding my expectations that everything would be generally terrible post-Steve. They can reinvent something spectacularly well. But can they create something entirely new that is also wonderful? This is the real test they have yet to pass.

I know everyone is all poo poo on the iPhone x in here. But my prior phone was 3 years old (original 6+, the battery was already starting to... well have issues, was already at over 1k cycles), so I bought the X. Have to say I like it, its just thinner enough width wise. And the one feature it has is brilliant in winter. I can unlock my phone without removing my gloves. And yes, these gloves are the ones that work wi…

ha, same upgrade here (6 Plus to X). The swipes are the one area where the notch is almost a feature: swipe down from left of notch - notifications; swipe down from right of notch - control center. Doing it in landscape is doable but sometimes I'm not 100% certain it is going to end up where I want it.

I'm very pleased so far. I was tired of having the larger phone yet wanted the better camera. Do I know if it is was worth the price premium? Not sure, but it seems I had a choice between two of three items in price, performance, and size. I chose performance and size.

Re: The iPhone X

#40

Post by breatheoften »

nkristoffersen wrote: post #37
arielm wrote: post #5

This is a beautiful way of looking at the X from a very zoomed out perspective. To an extent, I agree with much of what’s said and felt the same way when starting to use my X. But, and this is the important but here, we’re existing users. I saw iPhones develop over time, so for me this is evolution and I put up with it. But what about new users, that are new to the platform. Apple made some interactions so unintuitiv…

I've had the X for a few days now. The animation to press the physical button totally had me stumped the first few times! Overall I'm a fan (such as great camera and great screen) but some of the new interactions are taking some getting used to.

Yeah the explanation for the side button tap should be considered a straight up bug — I had to google what to do.
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