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Burger King TV Ad Asks, Hoping Google Home Devices Answer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the sort of person who's OK with an always-listening device in their home would find this particularly invasive.

I am and I would. I don't care if a computer is passively listening for a prompt — the computer has no consciousness and it doesn't do anything I'd even notice. I do care if somebody is trying to make my device do something without my OK.

If you are relying on good will and the spirit of co-operation to ensure that everything that makes sound is OK, you're going to have a bad day.

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Google has already disabled this from responding on the server side.

Source? Or are you just implying that they will quickly? I don't doubt you mind you, just genuinely curious what Google has to say about this. A quick search just turned up similar articles to the post with a statement that Google had nothing to do with ad and declined to comment.

It recognizes the ad now and doesn't respond to it. http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/12/15277278/google-home-burge...

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What if you're the company with the ad after this one? Now the GHome is stomping over that audio with Wikipedia speech? What if it's the last ad before the show resumes?

I assume that's a rhetorical question. But in case not, then the GDevice will talk over those things. If they really wanted to be safe, those other things could start by saying "OK google, stop talking" or something.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I can't believe that those ad execs really believe that people want intrusions like that." They know that they don't. I am starting to believe that these companies do shitty things on purpose (Looking at that Pepsi ad with the Kardashian girl) knowing full well the amount of outrage and free publicity it will get.

Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

Never reason based on meaningless aphorisms.

This particular one leaves you completely vulnerable to trivial deception. Want to get away with something evil? Just pretend to be dumb, make it look like you don't know what you're doing, then people on the Internet will defend you as "merely incompetent, not evil."

Besides, did you even read the article? Burger King is doing this on purpose! Says so in the first paragraphs!

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Just another reason not to watch cable I guess. I can't believe that those ad execs really believe that people want intrusions like that. That they'd want the TV to hack their Home into advertising to them. That's just bullshit. Google should change the autoresponse for burger king. "Hey Google what is a whopper?" "A whopper is a tall tale which clever executives want to sell you but really tastes of cardboard"

"I can't believe that those ad execs really believe that people want intrusions like that." They know that they don't. I am starting to believe that these companies do shitty things on purpose (Looking at that Pepsi ad with the Kardashian girl) knowing full well the amount of outrage and free publicity it will get.

Look at how much publicity it's getting them. The New York times is just now running a free ad for Burger King. Magic.

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There's a way to prevent this, but I doubt any of the major players will do it: Allow the owners of the device choose their own "activation words". Leave the default "branded" activation sentence as-is, but allow the user to customize it as they see fit. This won't happen, of course, because of the whole "branding" thing (like the user is going to forget which service they are using?). This just hammers another nail…

Freely available speech to text is garbage compared to what the big players are doing. Additionally their activation words usually trigger a special microcontroller extensively trained to listen for such a phrase, and then the more expensive processing kicks in.

And it will stay that way without more people working on the freely available stuff...

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FYI a Burger King marketing exec modified the entry on Wikipedia to be more "Ad-like", initially using the name, "Burger King Corporation" before that was banned for having a promotional name. Then the ad guy came back using his online screenname, and re-added the promotional introduction before it was reverted several times (along with an author from The Verge editing it, probably the edit that changed the wording t…

Burger King needs to look at Wendy's to see how to win at marketing:

http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/wendys-chicken-nuggets-teen-tw...

http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-wendy-jokes/

(Although in reality I expect if another company tried to pull this off, it'd backfire horribly.)

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Just another reason not to watch cable I guess. I can't believe that those ad execs really believe that people want intrusions like that. That they'd want the TV to hack their Home into advertising to them. That's just bullshit. Google should change the autoresponse for burger king. "Hey Google what is a whopper?" "A whopper is a tall tale which clever executives want to sell you but really tastes of cardboard"

Honestly, I'm glad they did it - it proves the risk these types of devices pose. Better people stop using it over shit like this than worse...
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