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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by nec4b »

PierceJoy wrote: post #590
jtbayly wrote: post #499

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Look, I've already explained that I'm not surprised. You are claiming I'm lying? Or what? Also my example is not a straw man. It's a simple analogy. This will be my last comment. The thing I'm trying to address is your claim that it's just fine and dandy for them to redirect all the money to charities because that's equivalent to what the original organizers were going to do anyway. It's not. It's so obviously not ap…

> The thing I'm trying to address is your claim that it's just fine and dandy for them to redirect all the money to charities because that's equivalent to what the original organizers were going to do anyway. It's not. Not just any charities, charities that were going to be chosen by the organizers, which is in line with the agreement the organizers accepted. I honestly don't understand how you can believe something…

> They're overt white supremacists.

Do you have proof of that?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by HideousKojima »

scollet wrote: post #647
throwawaysea wrote: post #249

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The thing is BLM protesters broke laws. They started fires, destroyed businesses, trapped drivers in tunnels, attacked police, set fires in people’s homes, and declared an autonomous zone that claimed to secede from the country - and this is just from my city. GoFundMe happily allowed them to be funded while Facebook and Twitter happily allowed them to organize. Driving trucks and using the roads as they are meant to…

People supporting BLM have a real issue to defend, and 400 years of precedence. It's not the same; it's not even close.

No bad methods, only bad targets/ideologies?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by HideousKojima »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #510
culi wrote: post #242

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GoFundMe almost immediately changed their policy and instead directly refunded everyone If this was a matter of politics, I think their politics would actually push them to make this decision more because the alternative was to make the organization that organized it choose another charity to give it to. That charity would likely be something that does not align with the politics of the average GFM employee

They changed their policy after it kicked off a massive internet shitstorm. It's no excuse for their initial, blatantly antipathic announcement.

And a massive wave of CC chargebacks

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by klyrs »

pstuart wrote: post #493
klyrs wrote: post #215

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I don't know what decade you were born in, but I have cousins aged 18 and 20 that have never been vaccinated because of their mom's political beliefs.

Likely because of a mistaken assumption of fears of autism. Politics only entered into this under Trump. https://slate.com/technology/2021/02/smallpox-vaccine-bioatt...

Autism is one of many strawmen that the antivax movement throws out. You may have only become aware of this under Trump, but the antivaxers in my family are a flavor of anti-establishment Christian fundamentalists (quiverfull-aligned) that are absolutely political, and have been (I attest as a first-hand witness) for decades, long predating Trump's rise to power.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by _-david-_ »

sudosysgen wrote: post #598
_-david-_ wrote: post #517

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You do realize something like 90% of truckers have been vaccinated? It doesn't seem like they think anyone involved with the vaccine are evil...

That 90% of truckers aren't the ones in the convoy. Many of them are quite embarrassed at it.

Source?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by klyrs »

smsm42 wrote: post #634
klyrs wrote: post #485

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A missing piece of this is Canada's Bill C51 [1], which characterizes interference with critical infrastructure as terrorism . A significant difference between CHAZ/CHOP and these protests is the legal context. Looters bad, rah rah, but GoFundMe doesn't want to touch (legally-defined-as) terrorists with a 10 foot pole. But C51 was passed with an eye towards stopping anti-pipeline protests, and conservative Canadians…

Given that parents getting into a shouting match with a particularly dense school board functionary is defined as "terrorism" now I think this can only lead to the terrorism accusation losing its sting. If every petty political squabble is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism.

In which law can I find such behavior defined as terrorism? Because there's a big difference between a law on the books and a politician spouting off.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by sudosysgen »

_-david-_ wrote: post #695
sudosysgen wrote: post #598

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That 90% of truckers aren't the ones in the convoy. Many of them are quite embarrassed at it.

Source?

What, precisely, do you want proof of? Do you want a census of the people in the convoy by vaccination status?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by ifyoubuildit »

defaultname wrote: post #668
petre wrote: post #626

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What other option is there when the government is tone deaf? They do it in France for other things and it's quite legal when there's a union behind it. And what will the government do if the truckers finally throw in the towel like they did in the UK (or maybe it was Polish and other Eastern European truckers who chose to operate on the mainland after Brexit)?

Every truck union and federation has denounced the protests. Despite the protests, everything is operating logistically completely normally. It isn't "truckers". Some participants brought trucks because they a) have sleeping facilities, b) have big loud horns, c) take a lot of space and are hard to remove. That doesn't make it a trucker protest anymore than someone riding a bicycle there would make it a bicycle prote…

How many people that aren't truckers just happen to have that kind of truck laying around for the occasional protest? Are you aware of the cost of a truck like that?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by guilhas »

beloch wrote: post #498

One thing most Americans don't understand about Canadian politics how much effort is put into limiting the influence of money. Corporations cannot make political donations in several provinces. Even unions can't contribute in some provinces. Individual donations to political parties are capped. On top of that, political parties have to adhere to campaign spending limits during election periods (although some do circu…

Money out of politics is one thing, this is politicians fearing when people unite for a cause they dislike

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

gdsdfe wrote: post #660
dang wrote: post #108

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we ban that sort of account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don't see anything unsubstantive and/or flamebait in that comment, that future will come at some point. And the desire to secure/improve supply chain through automation is something everyone wants! So this is the problem with censorship it's just that you don't like my comment not that there's problems with it.

Sorry, but by the moderation standard here, that was clearly an unsubstantive comment. This was not a borderline call and doesn't have to do with liking or disliking.
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