Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

Post by ZoomerCretin » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 10:27 PM UTC

pseudo0 wrote: post #491

philistine wrote: post #304

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Yeah, we do not have what you think of in terms of freedom of speech in Canada. A private corporation using their insured property to audibly harass a city and blockade streets is not considered freedom of speech in Canada. Take away their toys and let them hold a protest with their boots and parkas.

Freedom of expression features prominently in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It is included in Section 2, which details fundamental freedoms, such as freedom of expression, freedom of association, and freedom of assembly. It strains credulity to argue that this protest somehow exceeds protest norms when bullhorns, drums, honking, and other noisemaking has been a key part of protests for decades.

Post by throwaway4aday » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

elipsey wrote: post #460

I must be the only person here who doesn't already know about these trucking protests; I'm having trouble establishing the basic facts of what is in dispute. Who exactly is required to be vaccinated? It seems like the fraction of truckers who engaged in cross-border trucking with the US were subject to a Canadian federal vaccination mandate, which applied to some workers in the transportation sector as well as many f…

Post by ZoomerCretin » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 10:30 PM UTC

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Others have already highlighted that you can be vaccinated and anti-mandate, which is what many people are focusing on. From a numbers perspective, 91.54% of Canadians 18+ have received at least one dose. 88.91% of 18+ have received two. It's /possible/ that truckers are widely unvaccinated (perhaps they all subscribe to the same train of thought), but it's unlikely.

I am vaccinated, boosted, and anti mandate. "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." — Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of Government (1791)

Post by _-david-_ » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 10:33 PM UTC

PierceJoy wrote: post #490

throwaway4aday wrote: post #487

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> Healthcare workers are now told to remove any indications that they work at a hospital for their own safety. This seems like a really weird narrative. Why would people who are protesting vaccine mandates be against healthcare workers? They aren't the ones keeping the mandate in place. There's a tenuous connection with them being the ones to administer a vaccine if someone decides to get vaccinated but it's not like…

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Post by brokensegue » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 10:35 PM UTC

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I'm replying to someone who claimed mandates will always be political by pointing out a counter example. The covid mandate in the US at least was of adults. All of whom are at some risk (especially if you include long covid).

My point is this: If you have a vaccine its inherently non-political, its just a medical intervention. But when it becomes mandated now you introduce a process by which some people can decide for some other people what must be done. That is politics.