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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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In a free society, businesses shouldn’t be able to suppress or punish customers for their political views. We already require businesses to not just do whatever they want in many ways. That’s what anti discrimination laws do, for example. We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well. Apart from that, we also regulate a lot of private companies to be neutral. Your power utility may be private but…

>In a free society, businesses shouldn’t be able to suppress or punish customers for their political views. >We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well. I have not gasped at the outlandishness of an HN post in some time. GoFundMe is not a grocer, or a transit provider. It isn't a power company. It is a luxury service in a free market with low capital requirements. Under no circumstance should…

> >We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well.

> I have not gasped at the outlandishness of an HN post in some time.

How else can a democratic republic preserve the diversity of viewpoints required for such a society to function? This really shouldn't be a controversial idea.

Differences of opinion are not only okay, they are essential!

Should a conservative landlord be able to evict anyone who voted for a progressive? Or deny renting in the first place?

> Protected classes exist based on attributes of ourselves which are immutable. You can't change being a woman,

I can't phrase this any less provocatively... Are you saying that all rights against discrimination end if one has a gender transition because it's no longer immutable? I really don't think immutability is the right line to use to decide who gets rights.

Religious belief is protected, and also mutable. Ask me how I know. Political affiliation needs the same protection.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Mandates will always be political.

At least in the US lots of vaccines are mandated (of children) and it's not political.

I don't know what decade you were born in, but I have cousins aged 18 and 20 that have never been vaccinated because of their mom's political beliefs.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Did you not read the article? There is no deadline. All donations are going to be automatically refunded.

After GoFundMe's cut of course.

Really? My reading was that the donations will be refunded in their entirety.

I will say that I find GoFundMe's tactics around fees to be distasteful. It's been a while, but I recall having selected a donation amount and then being asked to pay an extra fee "so the charity doesn't have to bear this burden" or some such thing. Basically they just wanted to increase the donation amount (which increases their fee), and they were using guilt as a tactic.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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>By accepting this mandate we're not only accepting this jab, we're accepting all the future crazy ideas that the government will come with. No we're not. Accepting mandates doesn't somehow force everyone to automatically accept anything any politician claims or does in the future. That's not how anything works.

> That's not how anything works. That's how everything works, it's called a precedent.

In this case, the precedent would be *vaccine mandates*, not government-mandated kale with every meal.

You're conflating mandates for which there are precedents with completely novel and exotic government actions.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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CRT and banning firearms... sounds like a really awful attempt at being right-wing.

Would you mind explaining what CRT is and how it’s being pushed?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Go fund me deserves all the flak they receive. Redirecting donations intended for one cause to causes of their choosing is fraudulent. If they have an issue with a cause, which should be stipulated in their ToCs up front and not subject to inflight changes, then refund all donors to the best of their ability.

That is not what is happening though. The article says, all the money is refunded to all the donors.

Only after they faced a heavy backlash:

"...on Friday, saying it violated its terms of service. At the time it said donors would have two weeks to request a refund, with any remaining funds distributed to “credible and established charities.”"

"I'm not shoplifting, I put the things back after you caught me."

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