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Also, please don't use HN for nationalistic/ideological/religious flamewar (or any flamewar). It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.
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You could start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_supplying_ar...
You’ve given a list of countries selling weapons to Israel. If I sell you my car, I am not “funding” you. What an exercise in utter futility.
These are just Google results.
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What was the process that made Israel a state? What was there before Israeli state was? Who were the allies of that country?
I'd suggest the Wikipedia article as a very good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel#Ancient_Isra...
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There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.
> no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza “By December 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 70,117 people in Gaza had been killed. The vast majority of the victims were civilians, and around 50% were women and children. Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are among the hi…
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> because they see Mullah’s regime as one of their biggest allies when it comes to attack West/Israel/Free market you are looking it differently, I disagree, I am one of those who supported Palestine. Reason we are silent, because our governments already did what's needed from our side: heavily sanctioned the Iran, if I go and protest, what do I ask? To sanction Iran? They would laugh at me. Obviously, I am not going…
Not to whataboutism this, but I've barely heard pro-Palestinian crowd talk about the stuff Syria did to the Druze, the Alawites, and now to the Kurds. Multiple of my friends on Instagram still post daily about the atrocities in Gaza, but haven't posted anything about the atrocities in Aleppo or Kobane. Nor did they post anything when the STG was massacring the Alawites or the Druze last year. So I find it hard to bel…
I personally protested for Sudan, Syria and Venezuela. Of course you might say I am just giving you excuses, but on a personal level I feel different for each one of them when protesting, my expectations also different:
* Sudan - IMO it was funded by UAE, our gov. can sanction them, but they have excuse: "Do you have proof???"
* Syria - Their excuse: "What are you talkin about, we don't cooperate with ex-Al-Qaeda, what can we do there?"
* Venezuela - "Dude, we are doing it, just shut the f... up and watch how awesome we are in conducting these operations"
* Gaza - I think initially we were naive thinking our government will help, but in reality it turned out it was same government, so it resembles more to Venezuela case rather than other cases.
This is a tragedy. I'm very against foreign forces intervening in such situations they can do more harm than good. On the other hand, effective dictatorships (hell executive in democratic countries too) are good at controlling police and military. E.g. take Belarus when it went through a wave of protests few years ago. I always think, if the people would really be against the regime, wouldn't members of the police an…
"Still, I think this is no excuse for foreign intervention and you should not do others what you don't wish on yourself. But at the same time if those regimes are indeed so effective, how do you get to help them? " german here. Thanks for invading nazi germany and killing hitler. was very very nice. Thanks again
This is a tragedy. I'm very against foreign forces intervening in such situations they can do more harm than good. On the other hand, effective dictatorships (hell executive in democratic countries too) are good at controlling police and military. E.g. take Belarus when it went through a wave of protests few years ago. I always think, if the people would really be against the regime, wouldn't members of the police an…
> Which means that either there is no such an internal pressure or the regimes are extraordinarily good at selecting and incentivizing people to maintain the status quo. It depends a lot on how much power the people have. The more advanced and diverse an economy and the more qualified and educated the population are the more power they have. On one extreme you have countries like Angola with an economy consisting vir…
Nazism happened in Germany, a country that had the highest education and literacy standards of the 1920s, they were higher than in modern United States.
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Clinton using executive orders and legislation to keep Russia and Iran from cooperating on defense was a desperate act of "Mullah" appeasement? It was the iranians that called for the Negev summit?
Yes, it is all relative. It is appeasement compared to war and much heavier sanctions that ended up being necessary. Clinton and even Bush II administrations were hoping internal change would come up during Khatami era and hoping for him to be Gorbachev. Regardless of Bush II harsh rhetoric, the real animosity only really started after Ahmadinejad was installed in Iran. You are correct that Clinton was still not as f…
Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?
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> if I go and protest, what do I ask? To sanction Iran? They would laugh at me. That's a very weird take I see repeated over and over again You don't protest only to get your government to do something, the protests against Israel expectedly did not meaningfully change US relations with Israel yet you still presumably went out you can express solidarity with Iranians, you can protest the massacre, or just make people…
I do protest the massacre, but I don't know what to expect as a result. What do I ask our gov. to do? Sanction them? To stop sending them weapons? Isolate them diplomatically? Surprisingly, all is done already
As long as Iran has multiple countries it can sell its oil, there is still pressure to apply
The real reasons there are no protests are in my opinion the same ones people generally suspect