Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fun fact, the clergy was a crucial part of the coup, backed by CIA. The same people in power now, btw.
Fun fact, the same people who preach democracy to you all day, plotted and went about to oust one of the most democratically legitimate leaders of his country by night. Let that sink in for a moment.
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#262What happened to Trump threatening to invade? This is the one situation that intervention is called for.
No situation justifies external interference, especially not by the US, which has done more than its fair share of invading and then just making things worse for everyone, like in Afghanistan and Iraq.
External to the planet?
The hemisphere?
The continent?
The lands previously a part of a former empire?
The lands that a country lost to a war?
A country border drawn arbitrarily (straight!) by an English Lord hundreds of years ago?
A country border not everybody agrees about?
A country border defined to keep out intervention more than to protect?
A country border that is porous and is walked across daily by people that aren’t even sure where it is?
Etc…
At some point you may release that humans live on both sides of lines that often exist only on maps, and serve only to keep people servile to autocrats.
Autocrats whom make sure that their schools teach the importance of borders.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
How come they blame carter instead of REAGAN over this shit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory
President Nixon was an outspoken friend of the Shah. It was Carter administration that stabbed him in the back and negotiated with Khomeini in the first place. The hostage crisis happened about 9-10 months after Khomeini was in power and only towards the end of that crisis you could argue Reagan was in the picture at all. The love for Islamists by the Democrats in power never ended and Clinton, Obama, and Biden all w…
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#264That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fun fact, the same people who preach democracy to you all day, plotted and went about to oust one of the most democratically legitimate leaders of his country by night. Let that sink in for a moment.
I’m was under the impression that this was a well known fact. Let what sink in? What are you trying to say?
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Ravid isn't even willing to say that someone told him on background, it sounds like bullshit or speculation. Guys like Ravid are intentionally or no part of the myth making around Mossad where they are simultaneously everywhere int he Middle East and nowhere at once.
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Also - Israel got burned so bad with the idiotic Pollard affair, there is zero chance Israel would put so much of their assets in the US when they have a 7 front war. They are many things, but they are not idiots, and they clearly care far more about their immediate security interests than what the US thinks.
These theories make absolutely no sense, my dear fried.
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#267hm, I think we should re-evaluate sanctioning or civilian pressure campaigns, since the guise is for them to coax or turn on the government for regime change, but the government can just hire mercenaries from outside the country. don't know a solution but this one isn't it
How about plain civil disobedience? Like just stop working? It would need to get pretty extreme before the government had the audacity (and even capacity) to actually track you down to your home and arrest (or kill) you. Although this kind of coordination might be difficult with government control of communication media.
Regarding Iran, most of their money is from Oil. As throwawayheui57 says. So I don't really think that they would care much for civil disobedience
I have heard that Iranian shops are either closed or running in the least minimum operational way (barely open/working)
Tough times. I hope for a better future for people of Iran.
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#268That number would inevitably lead to tons of videos with piles of corpses and cities covered with dead. Like ones that appear when west-backed Julani killed Alawites. But there is almost no such content - only rumors, unnamed sources and documents no one bother to check.
Unfortunately those videos exist. There are videos of relatives walking for hours from body bag to body bag to find the remains of their lost ones. There are videos of people with heavy machine guns shooting indiscriminately into peaceful protests. There are videos of executions. Everything has been recorded. There is a reason why the Iranian government cannot activate internet and phones anymore. Once people can com…
I had talked to an iranian person who had misconfigured internet provider so I was able to talk to them on a forum. They mentioned that phone calls are still there in the daytime tho (they are cut at night), Sim,internet,starlink all are blocked
If someone's from Iran/related to it feel free to correct me but has there been any recent development where phone calls are completely shut off?
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.
> civilians aren't the target in Gaza "We killed about 80,000 people by mistake" isn't the exculpation you think it is.