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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.

There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.

> no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza

“By December 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 70,117 people in Gaza had been killed. The vast majority of the victims were civilians, and around 50% were women and children. Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are among the highest. Thousands more uncounted bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed buildings. A study in the medical journal The Lancet estimated that traumatic injury deaths were undercounted by June 2024, while noting an even larger potential death toll when "indirect" deaths are included. The number of injured is greater than 171,000. Gaza has the most child amputees per capita in the world; the Gaza war caused more than 21,000 children to be disabled.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

Russia has more than likely killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians since February 2022 but what is happening in Ukraine is not termed a genocide. Why? Because by and large it is Russian military personnel killing Ukrainian military personnel (and vice versa, of course). Why is what is happening in Gaza being termed a genocide? Because the Israeli military* is targeting and killing civilians. I'm not the one saying that, genocide scholars (among others) are the ones saying that.

“The Gaza genocide is the ongoing, intentional, and systematic destruction of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip carried out by Israel during the Gaza war. It encompasses mass killings, deliberate starvation, infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, and prevention of births. Other acts include blockading, destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying healthcare facilities, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, causing mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and destroying educational, religious, and cultural sites. The genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee and commission of inquiry, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, multiple human rights groups, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars, and other experts.”

One cannot blockade an entire population and not be targeting the civilians in that population.

“An Israeli blockade heavily contributed to starvation and confirmed famine. As of August 2025, projections show about 641,000 people experiencing catastrophic levels and that "the number of people facing emergency levels will likely increase to 1.14 million". Early in the conflict, Israel cut off Gaza's water and electricity, but it later partially restored the water. As of May 2024, 84% of Gaza's health centres have been destroyed or damaged. Israel also destroyed numerous cultural heritage sites, including all 12 of Gaza's universities, and 80% of its schools. Over 1.9 million Palestinians—85% of Gaza's population—were forcibly displaced.”

* with the backing of primarily the United States, the United Kingdom, and Germany

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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The source is certainly unreliable, a quick scan of the wiki sources give you that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International But does the number even matter? Whether its 4000 or 35000 the conduct has been unacceptable. The real question is the solution, is reporting like this designed to be used as the backdrop to foreign intervention? How many people will be killed then? "one death is a tragedy, a million is…

The invasion of Iran by the US is a fantasy. They'd much rather fantasize about invading Canada.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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post #149

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If Ravid isn't even willing to say that someone told him on background, it sounds like bullshit or speculation. Guys like Ravid are intentionally or no part of the myth making around Mossad where they are simultaneously everywhere int he Middle East and nowhere at once.

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What's special about how they are doing it that makes the theory centered around Mossad? If it's happening, that seems like it would be business as usual for all intelligence agencies operating in all countries.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population. Sure you will get some nay-sayers who say 'a life is a life', if moral particles existed, they might be correct. But for some reason, humanity doesn't seem to care as much. What makes intra-state politics more acceptable to use violence…

> one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population. I don’t think that’s a particularly established moral position.

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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> It's 40 beheaded babies all over again.

No official source ever claimed this. You are disgusting scum for promoting this lie.

Lying and trivializing the brutal murders of Israeli children and tens of thousands of Iranians civilians is utterly reprehensible.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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post #245

This is partially on America. Didnt Trump publicly encourage the protesters and promised that the help is on the way?

It's completely on EU, Canada, and Australia. Why didn't the new self-proclaimed leaders of democracy and freedom, now completely independent of the US, do anything?

Too busy making deals with China and India for Russian gas, I suppose.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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The “Iranians that you work with” in the west are highly self-selecting. They’re like Cubans in Florida or Vietnamese—people who fled in the aftermath of the revolution and are extremely antagonistic towards the regime. My family left Bangladesh the year after the dictator made Islam the official religion. My dad is apoplectic about the Islamist parties being unbanned recently after the government was overthrown. By…

How come they blame carter instead of REAGAN over this shit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory

President Nixon was an outspoken friend of the Shah. It was Carter administration that stabbed him in the back and negotiated with Khomeini in the first place. The hostage crisis happened about 9-10 months after Khomeini was in power and only towards the end of that crisis you could argue Reagan was in the picture at all. The love for Islamists by the Democrats in power never ended and Clinton, Obama, and Biden all were desperate in appeasing the Mullah regime. It's the ousting of the Shah and appeasing the Mullahs that garners the hate.
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