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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by GraemeMeyer »

mtrycz2 wrote: post #648
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #570

Remember that Elon is powered by attention so you have to be critical of everything he says. Who knows if there was actually a stalker? Was Elon really targeted or was it just random? Could have been some homeless guy trying to clean the windows. The elonjet thing has been an annoyance to Elon for a long time, now that he owns the company he can force the guy onto another platform - and fuel the attention engine in t…

> Elon is powered by attention Is it renewable?

He does seem to be able catalyse a reaction in thousands of journalists just by farting, so it does seem to be a limitless supply

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by mola »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

How is tracking a jet allowing a stalker to stalk a car?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by maeln »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

I get it but what is the relation with his private plane ?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by dpacmittal »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Publicly rallying RW against Fauci is okay though, because only Elon's safety is paramount. Classic narcissist.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by flir »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

"Free speech is peachy, until it hurts me. Then we need to come down on it like a ton of weight."

And remember, my pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by Eisenstein »

bjourne wrote: post #635
akiselev wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL so correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like Musk has a decent chance of getting SLAPPed back [1] to kingdom come. Twitter may be a private entity but the lawsuit is clearly meant to stifle the distribution of public information. Now that he owns one of the largest social media platforms used to distribute stuff like CALFire emergency announcements, that jet information is not only already public but arguably t…

State courts have ruled anti-SLAPP laws unconstitutional. They likely can't protect Sweeney at all.

A statement like that without specifics is counter-productive to a discussion. Please provide them.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jacquesm »

ergocoder wrote: post #659
jacquesm wrote: post #653

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. It might be, but there isn't a shred of proof that it actually is. Elon is quite literally hiding behind his youngest child in order to get away with something that he simply wanted to do anyway. He painted himself in a corner and this is his way out.

> there isn't a shred of proof There is a video of a stalker that followed him from the airport. That is not enough? Apart from that, I would generally be concerned if there is a twitter that tracks my vehicle in real-time. Wouldn't you be concerned too?

The account that got blocked wasn't active on the day that the alleged stalking incident happened. And until I see some actual evidence that the two are linked that will be my position.

And if I were a billionaire and worried about parties tracking my vehicle in real time I would be up front about it rather than to make grand statements about absolute free speech and leaving that particular account up. I might go as far as to say that I purchased Twitter with the express intent of shutting that account down, even though I knew full well that the information would remain available elsewhere because my children's health is priceless and 44 Billion is chump change to me.

I also would not use easily identifiable vehicles such as private aircraft.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by logn »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

And also at this point it's allegedly inciting violence, so his position might even be consistent given changing circumstances. Whether it actually is incitement is still debatable but a person of principle can still change their position without it being a flip flop. If Musk is taking legal action at least there is corresponding litigation for the account suspension for some sort of due process and objectivity.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ilyt »

mlindner wrote: post #496
thrulisk wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they are referring to the blocklist described here: https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd > ADS-B Out transmits flight data directly from the aircraft to internet vendors not participating in the LADD program. Non-participating internet vendors collect and post all ADS-B Out flight data on the internet. To address ADS-B Out privacy concerns, the FAA has initiated the Privacy ICAO Address (PIA) program to improve t…

LADD is only one system, that adsbexchange doesn't use, but PIA still applies to them. Once the ICAO number changes the link the person posted above will no longer point to Elon's jet. You'd have to again have someone in person at the airport to deanonymize the jet. ADSB Exchange can't get around ICAO anonymizing just by looking at the transponder data.

I'd imagine you could deanonymize easily enough just by seeing "ID A enters airport, ID B exits the airport" in logs.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jacquesm »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

I fail to see the connection between this video, which was posted well after the account was blocked, given that the account had not tweeted out Musk's location after Dec 12th.

The 'won't somebody think of the children' argument doesn't play nice with 'free speech as long as it is legal'.

If Musk is so concerned about his children's privacy and safety then maybe he should stop tweeting out their whereabouts in real time himself?

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