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Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi say they will use Tesla's EV charging plug

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Re: Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi say they will use Tesla's EV charging plug

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I don’t know if I agree. It’s exceedingly rare now to find a place which doesn’t accept contactless in America, but we have these problems still. Besides dumb inconsistent terminals, the main thing holding it back is (A) customers don’t use it because they either don’t know it’s much faster than our garbage chip readers, or they have been burned by hunting for the right spot to tap. And (B) even the clerks don’t use…

> It’s exceedingly rare now to find a place which doesn’t accept contactless in America... Lowe's and Home Depot? Walmart, still? Companies still hoping to silo people into their own apps or antiquated payment method, which might give them a slight cc processing fee reduction that boosts their margins... at the cost of being a usability nightmare for anyone who doesn't shop there frequently. I expect that frequent sh…

Ah, you're right. I forgot about HD which surprises me every time I visit. TBH I have knuckled under for Walmart, which I shop frequently, by using Walmart Pay on their app. I agree that for frequent shoppers it's well worth it, but useless to someone off the street who isn't used to it.

I as a frequent shopper just like the way I can scan my code at any point and then push one button to check out, and that they allow credit cards to back it. For a while before its launch I think it was rumored that Walmart Pay would require an ACH or debit, which would have made it a hard no for me.

I still think that we've seen major progress. For instance, the huge Kroger chain got on board sometime in the past 2 years after being NFC or Apple Pay laggards. CVS a couple years before that, I remember them being particularly prickly about never taking Apple Pay and they came around.

Re: Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi say they will use Tesla's EV charging plug

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This would be infinitely better than the current model, where you have to install a bullshit app, which doesn’t work over 20% of the time. I’d happily pay $0.30 per charge session to just use standard NFC or chip payments. Also, why in god’s name would I have authentication on my home charger?

> Also, why in god’s name would I have authentication on my home charger? Not everyone in the US lives in a single family home

But if you have a dedicated spot, then the problem is still solved.

Re: Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi say they will use Tesla's EV charging plug

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This would be infinitely better than the current model, where you have to install a bullshit app, which doesn’t work over 20% of the time. I’d happily pay $0.30 per charge session to just use standard NFC or chip payments. Also, why in god’s name would I have authentication on my home charger?

Surely this could be dealt with by accepting a "membership card" over NFC. I'm sure my dad has a token for the parking barriers at his place of work which can also take direct card payments. As an added bonus, when you have family or friends visiting they can pay to charge as normal (at presumably a slightly less attractive rate).

Currently, I just plug into my friends’ charger, and it goes on their electric bill.

I usually bring 10x the dollar value of the charge in booze and food, so it doesn’t matter.

Also, they don’t have to stress out over trying to figure out how to pair my car to their house and charge me $5 while they’re trying to plate dinner and deal with their kids.

If they cared about the $5 (or if I had a hummer and they had a DC fast charger, so it was $20-50) I’d happily pay cash or apple pay or venmo or really any option other than authenticating with their landlord.

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