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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by flangola7 »

xcxs wrote: post #645
oneoff786 wrote: post #554

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Its hard not to read this and think of Black only bathrooms. What exactly is the risk?

Males commit the vast majority of sexual offences, murders and other violent crimes. We are talking over 80%-90%. This is why we have sex-segregated spaces like locker rooms, bathrooms and prisons, to reduce the risk to women from violent and sexually abusive men. It's nothing at all like black people being forced to use different bathrooms - this is a segregation that almost all women want to remain in place. It is…

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by xcxs »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #555
xcxs wrote: post #547

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So, no mobs then, and mostly people working in prostitution - a notoriously dangerous occupation in itself.

Yes, especially dangerous for trans women, as they're targeted and murdered more often.

Now pull up the statistics for genuine women and see how they compare. You'll find it's much, much worse. But no-one pushing this transgender ideology gives a shit about actual female women do they, only the special ones with cocks and sob stories about how hard it is pretending to be a woman.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by xcxs »

flangola7 wrote: post #629
xcxs wrote: post #533

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For starters, the three people that jumped me in April 2022 and called me a mentally ill pedophile and put me in a hospital bed for several days. (I am a visibly GNC person who does not appear clearly male or female). I was fortunate to have been well practiced in drawing and discharging my mace canister or it could have been significantly worse. A lot of physical trauma can be (and was) inflicted in 5 seconds. This…

That's unfortunate that you were a victim of random violence, but it doesn't support your claim that there are mobs roaming around targeting trans people. That is a paranoid fantasy that isn't backed up by any evidence.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by rsj_hn »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #555
xcxs wrote: post #547

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So, no mobs then, and mostly people working in prostitution - a notoriously dangerous occupation in itself.

Yes, especially dangerous for trans women, as they're targeted and murdered more often.

There is no increased risk of being a victim of violence for being transgender that is not fully accounted for by the increased risk of engaging in prostitution. It is just that transgender people tend to have higher rates of prostitution.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by HDThoreaun »

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #649
HDThoreaun wrote: post #619

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> Moral theology teaches us that the ends do not justify the means. Deontology is misguided, the ends very often do justify the means.

I don't subscribe to deontology; thanks for asking. I'm in the camp of virtue ethics, myself.

Then saying the ends don't justify the means is even more nonsensical. There's nothing in virtue ethics that espouses that bs.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by Dylan16807 »

clnq wrote: post #627
DoctorOW wrote: post #534

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Is there evidence of this? It seems like nobody was even really talking about this before the ban and I find it hard to believe a huge movement rose up and then vanished without a trace.

I did not say it was a huge movement. But it was big enough to get the account suspended by reporting it.

Enough to get an account suspended could be one or two reports, far from a mob.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by bravetraveler »

cobertos wrote: post #641
bravetraveler wrote: post #319

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Is changing the source of data really that innocuous? I find it not that surprising that the output changed with the input Especially considering this is the description for the model they left: > higher quality, longer output and better instruction-following and this is what they moved to: > Very capable, but faster and lower cost than Davinci. If nothing else, the adage 'you get what you pay for' works. ref: https:…

I've only been through a couple production outages, but at those companies, usually we'd get things patched and ask questions later. I could definitely imagine switching to another model that is made to sound like a smaller version of Davinci, at least from how it's been stored in my mind up until now.

I've been there quite a bit, and it's pretty true! It's best to worry about how the ship started sinking after you've saved it :p

In that situation I still try to exercise my options a bit...

Seeing that this new model is implicitly worse at following directions, knowing that 'production' (this is a Twitch channel) depends on obeying a certain set of rules... switching to it may be ill-advised.

I don't want to be seen as overly judgmental - the Twitch channel comment works both ways; derogatory/supportive. I get why one wouldn't really foresee this or even care to. Then I wonder, why not leave it down for a bit? The hype train is fickle but it's not that precious, either.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by arp242 »

yesco wrote: post #479
mynameisvlad wrote: post #393

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What even is this argument? “Your life admittedly sucks but I think you blow it out of proportion so I can’t feel empathy for you”

No, it's just that whenever they seem to be brought up in discussion aggressive "supporters" come out of the woodwork, over dramatically act like the world is ending over the smallest things and misrepresent my arguments with the most bad faith interpretation on purpose. Like you are doing now. It's hard for me to empathize with a group that increasingly looks less like a marginalized group, and more like some fanati…

To provide some examples: Eddie Izard has been on mainstream on British TV for decades, often (though not always) presenting as a woman. The first British TV programme about transsexuals – as it was called back then – dates from 1979 (A Change of Sex) and was, as I understand it, received overwhelmingly positively. In 2001 Big Brother had a transsexual candidate in the Netherlands, etc.

No doubt there is discrimination, and there was in the past as well, and I don't want to minimize this, but the idea that the general public (i.e. most people) fundamentally objects to the very idea of trans people existing (and wants to "genocide" them, as is sometimes also claimed) does not seem to bear out.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by grogenaut »

doix wrote: post #223
dane-pgp wrote: post #75

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Or write an AI that does sentiment analysis on the Twitch chat, to find those moments automatically.

Don't even need AI, just count the number of LOLW per minute or whatever other emotes get spammed. I'm not sure how well generic sentiment analysis would work on twitch chat. You'd have to train a new model and it doesn't seem worth it.

you'd likely have to generate a new model every few hours per channel as fast as some of those communities evolve. praise helix.
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