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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by RajT88 »

capableweb wrote: post #7

The "jokes": > Anyone have any suggestions? > I'm thinking about doing a bit about being transgender is actually a mental illness. > Or how all liberals are secretly gay and want to impose their will on everyone. > Or something about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of society. > But no one is laughing, so I'm going to stop, thanks for coming out tonight https://livestreamfails.com/clip/150015 Supposedly…

Their fallback model seemed to have been trained on the Breitbart comments section.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by LegitShady »

alexb_ wrote: post #12

What is this going to accomplish? Is the robot going to learn from its mistakes? Or is this supposed to be against the programmers for "failing to put in safeguards" or something like that? It's kind of silly - it's not that the robot was bad but that if you keep it on 24/7 it will eventually say something bad. An infinite monkey typewriter will contain transphobic text.

the ban is not to teach, the ban is to remove unwanted content from their platform. If you want to teach, go into teaching, not livestreaming.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by oceanplexian »

sys32768 wrote: post #20

So comedy cannot be offensive anymore? When did that happen?

IRL Comedy shows are still deeply offensive and hilarious. If you tried to make a stink like people do on platforms like Twitch you would probably get kicked out by the bouncer.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by shagie »

SilasX wrote: post #26
Jeremy1026 wrote: post #3

Took longer than I expected for it to become transphoic/homophobic/racist. Given history of AI being left to its own devices.

Yes! Remember Microsoft's chatbot Tay from 2016 that went super racist and forced MS to pull the plug? https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/24/technology/tay-racist-micro... Edit: A high-comment HN thread about the pulling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11362187

Microsoft chatbot is taught to swear on Twitter 263 points; 228 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352307

Tay – Microsoft A.I. chatbot 154 points; 130 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11346147

Can also go digging with this search range - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1459468800&dateRange=custom&...

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by anonymousab »

alexb_ wrote: post #39
anoonmoose wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting that Twitch should ignore accounts that violate the ToS, so long as it was a computer that violated the terms as opposed to a person?

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> WHen it comes to AI anything, fear is the default.

If you stream a video and showcase a comedian making ToS-violating jokes and content, twitch will ban you regardless of whether you're a person or a robot or a script or a fish in a tank.

The only difference is if you're a major company or rights holder that Twitch wants to have a good relationship with. Or if you're a person with connections to the twitch mods and admins, they have a tendency to play favorites. But being AI generated content or not really isn't the issue here.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by parsimo2010 »

alexb_ wrote: post #12

What is this going to accomplish? Is the robot going to learn from its mistakes? Or is this supposed to be against the programmers for "failing to put in safeguards" or something like that? It's kind of silly - it's not that the robot was bad but that if you keep it on 24/7 it will eventually say something bad. An infinite monkey typewriter will contain transphobic text.

Platforms don’t ban accounts so that the users might learn a lesson. They ban accounts to keep their advertisers happy. It’s doesn’t matter if the distasteful jokes come from a robot or person, to Twitch it is simply a risk

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by slothtrop »

jasonlotito wrote: post #38
sys32768 wrote: post #20

So comedy cannot be offensive anymore? When did that happen?

No, comedy can still be offensive. Anyone suggesting comedians can't be offensive is lying. Comedians routinely punch down, and routinely sell out shows. The believe that comedian's can't be offensive is a shtick they are using to market their shows to an audience. It's all advertising and marketing, and the gullible eat it up because it feeds into their bias.

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/do-you-want-cancel-cult...
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