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They did, but no where as powerful as now. At least you wouldn’t lose your job for saying things that the woke don’t like.
Have you ever heard of McCarthyism?
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While the thirsty may equate to "drug" users, love lacks math(s). There's plenty of CEO women with mechanic husbands. Station is somewhat orthogonal to quality, but not completely. I'm most depressed that the prevalent attitude of 20's-30's somethings (men and women) tends to be maximizing hookups, binge drinking, and self-indulgence. Read a book, mentor a kid in high school, raise a service animal, donate blood, vol…
I'm not sure if I follow. Maybe you were thinking I meant "outclassed" literally? I just mean this seems like a case of men competing for womens attention in an arena where they have some kind of competitive advantage against the other men around them. If you can't go to the bar and be better looking than the guys around you, why not go to a class where you can be more helpful than the guys around you? As much as it…
Some folks, e.g., spoiled, expect their desired group to be attracted to and/or be friendly to them. (Brag alert: Myself and my SO - not models but not fugly.)
Others expect others, e.g., incels, expect others to treat them badly, and have a proverbial chip on their shoulders. This can be a combination of social and physical looks. People who have physical disfigurements or unusual appearances have it rough in the world, that it can either make them stronger from repeated exposure or tear them down to retreat into and hate themselves and maybe others. Yellowman and (RIP) Shock G.
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You're fabricating a scenario that even the professor wasn't so absurd to propose.
The professor was simply stating what they observed. I am extrapolating on the possible problems that'd arise in this environment and what I am suggesting isn't really that absurd. As a male student during my years in undergrad, I had 2 different instances of team members/partners who outright stated they would not cooperate and would just fail the lab/project unless I did XYZ thing for them. In the 2 cases I remembe…
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I'm not sure if I follow. Maybe you were thinking I meant "outclassed" literally? I just mean this seems like a case of men competing for womens attention in an arena where they have some kind of competitive advantage against the other men around them. If you can't go to the bar and be better looking than the guys around you, why not go to a class where you can be more helpful than the guys around you? As much as it…
Teenager behavior. I get it. Some kids (and people) need validation and obsess about it, while the winners (and old people like me) care less and go with the flow. Some folks, e.g., spoiled, expect their desired group to be attracted to and/or be friendly to them. (Brag alert: Myself and my SO - not models but not fugly.) Others expect others, e.g., incels, expect others to treat them badly, and have a proverbial chi…
We all have something to offer in the right environment, and are relatively useless in the wrong environment. Is there something juvenile about recognizing that and aiming for the right environment?
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You've assumed a great deal more about their behavior than was written. The professor even states "no unwanted advances are taking place", contradicting your characterization. Indeed, your extra assumptions would qualify as 'disruption', and I imagine the professor would be well within her rights to expel such students. But merely offering, not pushing, assistance, or even less "showboating", letting students in sear…
>Some of the young students in my class take up these offers, and this further demoralizes other female students seeing this happen (i.e. only attractive women being offered tutoring sessions). This is further compounded by the condescension involved (i.e. one self-admitted user of the app told me "this material that others struggle with is so easy for me, and I'm doing it for laughs and phone numbers."). This sugges…
What if they helped you because you were funny, or kind, or intelligent, or any number of traits that are primarily related back to your genetics or upbringing?
This is how humans interact. It's rarely a concious consideration of the reason we help others, but it's almost always based on our perception of them.
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Effort is generally a pretty good proxy for respect. If this isn't a respectful attempt, can you explain what is a respectful attempt? You go to a class, offer to help a girl and then at some point later (End of the class, etc) you ask for her number. If she says no at any point you leave her alone. What's disrespectful about that if you're genuinely helping her? Of course if you're leering and won't leave a girl alo…
>Effort is generally a pretty good proxy for respect My example above says otherwise. >can you explain what is a respectful attempt? One done in good faith. Which is a slippery and vague concept. The ambiguity would explain the state of this comment section. >taking a class and offering help to attractive girls isn't inherently disrespectful I, and others, would consider the crucial point here to be "taking the class…
Wait until you find out why men go to nightclubs...
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It’s disrespectful because it ignores the fact that the women are not there to date, but to learn. The men are getting in their way by showing off and offering disingenuous tutoring.
Why do you assume the women aren’t as interested in dating as the men? Seems pretty sexist frankly.
It's not hard to see how incel culture rose up and why people like Andrew Tate have so much support. Turns out chickens come home to roost.
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Citing article: > there are no unwanted advances Could you explain, what exactly is wrong with it?
I am not sure I believe that there are no unwanted advances because of, well everything else said and that the post even exists.
I'm unsure why you feel everything else the professor says is true except the parts that don't align with your foregone conclusion.
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As a woman, I can speak on experience that women will run away from any space men try to invade to seek us, whether it's dating apps, classes, bars, etc. The last thing I want is for a horde of thirsty men to chase me.
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I'm not banning you right now because you've also posted good things, but if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this, we'd appreciate it.