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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #257

There's an easy product fix for this. Offer every game purchase with the option for a one-time key conversion, ideally managed through the game publisher. In the event of a Stadia shutdown you could easily port your purchase over to another single platform of your choice. This stragegy de-risks the platform and would go a long way toward alleviating consumer fears. We saw similar strategies around the launch of Steam…

This. I would buy games on it in a heartbeat if they did this.

The problem is that, to move them to a new platform, for example Steam, they need to pay the platform's cut of the sale price. To give users the option to do this in future, they would need to keep all of the revenue they get from selling games in reserve to possibly do this in future. They would have to do this by charging users what it cost. I think it'd still be attractive though.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #149

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Every time someone posts "Nobody wants cloud gaming" half a dozen people come in and say "Actually, I want cloud gaming" Don't mistake the fact that you don't want cloud gaming for nobody wanting cloud gaming

Not only that, but the pre-orders for Stadia were so intense that they couldn't hit day 1 deliveries with orders that were placed within hours of going on sale. So clearly there are plenty of people who want this and are even willing to risk it being total crap at $130 each.

Were there lots of pre-ordered, or are they just launching slowly? The fact that pre-order customers can not invite friends immediately, who do not need hardware, suggests it is about limiting users to avoid overloading servers/support/ops.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #296

It blows my mind that anyone would support something like this. You're spending full price on a _streamed game_ that will be instantly remove when a) Google deems the service not profitable and closes the doors, rendering your money wasted, b) rights expire for certain games, c) some PR nightmare occurs from a CEO of a game company or something and they respond by removing affiliations. Digital games are bad enough i…

I imagine if the service shuts down, they'd provide full refunds for any purchased games. Microsoft did that when they shut down their ebook store.

Surely if they planned to, they would say that when asked about this?

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #239

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FWIW Google had orkut long before facebook became a success and moved out of colleges. Google had gtalk long before WhatsApp was conceived.

Microsoft had MSN Messenger, there was ICQ and many others, and there was "always" IRC etc., and frankly things were great with gAIM, Pidgin and other messenger aggregators until Google Talk switched off access for third-party apps and launched Hangouts...

I remember my whole family was in gtalk and other jabber talkers. The funny thing they were usable on mobile long before android/ios phones. There were JavaME clients that could run on many common phones. I still miss T9.

GTalk was really in a position to be the #1 messenger.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #647

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The $130 box gives you a controller and a Chromecast Ultra. You can use both of the outside of Stadia. They are also optional: you'll be able to play on Stadia without the controller and without the Chromecast (e.g. on a computer with mouse and keyboard).

What else can you use the controller for? Is it a standard HID?

I don't have prior experience with controllers, and I don't know what is standard. But I can play my steam games with the Stadia controller and use it with https://html5gamepad.com/ (on Windows).

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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I understand the cynicism of this community to Stadia but implore you all to think a little broader. Stadia is different, with this product Google is trying something really innovative. For one, the fact that Stadia actually costs money should be a signal of Google's long term ambition here. Yes, Fiber also cost money but was bogged down by the hell that is infrastructure development. Stadia will require a substantia…

It's not just all of the products they've dropped in the past, it's also the cumulative day-to-day experience I've had with them overall. When their stuff works, it's great, but if anything goes wrong, one faces the impervious silent wall of Google's tech support, or rather complete lack thereof. The idea of trusting their compute cloud for a business service that truly has to be reliable seems insane. They make grea…

*illusions. (good grief)

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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I think the GDPR makes it illegal to not allow exporting save games. Resolving that conflict would be Google's problem.

That would be fine under GDPR actually.

Why do you think article 20 doesn't apply here?

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-20-gdpr/

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#658
post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

That only works for products people actually like. I can think of maybe one product where this was a good model.

People liked Google Inbox too; that’s two including Google Reader.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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post #653

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I imagine if the service shuts down, they'd provide full refunds for any purchased games. Microsoft did that when they shut down their ebook store.

Surely if they planned to, they would say that when asked about this?

I'm sure they don't want to even admit the service would/could shut down.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

#660
post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

This is, to some extent, what Feedly did. They started off as a really nice, somewhat niche magazine-style news reader built on Google Reader. When Google Reader shut down, it was in their best interest to implement the API themselves. They had the very clever idea to make that a _public_ API, just like Google Reader, so in the end all kinds of apps and services wanted to use it, and it seems they're doing really wel…

For those that remember Google Notebook, this is also what Evernote did 10 years ago. It's why I've been using Evernote for 10 years and why I'll never use Google Keep.

https://www.cnet.com/news/evernotes-google-notebook-importer...

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