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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by dgs_sgd »

neuroelectron wrote: post #572
neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

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I thought the issue the administration was taking with the university was its alleged violation of civil rights law in admissions? E.g. Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v...

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Post by chairmansteve »

ty6853 wrote: post #82
ceejayoz wrote: post #65

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The article states "existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status"; this injunction would appear to pause that.

The semester is already over, many of them went home. They'll simply be refused when they try to come back.

Not only refused, they may be locked up for a couple of weeks, as has happened to various tourists.

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Post by Aeolun »

dionian wrote: post #278
ty6853 wrote: post #26

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The actual letter explains they can regain status by ratting out their students. It will quietly be done, although likely in a way that make it look as if Harvard hasn't.

'ratting out' how? this implies they did something wrong

If you provide information to an actor when you have a clear indication that said actor will then take disproportionate action against the one on which you provide information, how is that not wrong?

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lurk2 wrote: post #457
j_maffe wrote: post #402

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by bko »

kristopolous wrote: post #516
kochb wrote: post #20

Don’t miss this bit. Currently enrolled students are going to need to find a new university. > In a news release, the Department of Homeland Security sent a stark message to Harvard’s international students: “This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students, and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status.”

Ah yes, this is how we will be competitive - defunding universities, deporting the best and brightest, dismantling education, and cutting off trade. I mean seriously, if a malicious saboteur was running things, what would the differences be?

Harvard doesn't have higher academic standards for foreign students. So I don't think foreign students are any "better or brighter" than their American counterparts.

So if you can find equally qualified American students on the margin shouldn't you do so? I think an American university that benefits greatly from American taxpayers and institutions should primarily benefit American students. If you're picking truly exceptional student, that's one thing. But I don't think that's happening.

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Post by FridayoLeary »

NoImmatureAdHom wrote: post #505
NoImmatureAdHom wrote: post #449

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Many people associated with the University are pretty happy about it getting smacked down. Shameless, wrong, and overtly illegal discrimination on the basis of race, sex, and creed, suppression of free speech, even the compelling of speech have all been de rigeur for Harvard for the past decade. I just wish they would use a scalpel rather than a sledge hammer.

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Post by Aeolun »

sva_ wrote: post #122
tintor wrote: post #75

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or 8+ years

He will already have serves his second (and therefore last) term, or what do you mean?

You do realize that the last time he was voted out an angry crowd literally stormed the capitol to overturn the election? What more can they do with better preparation?

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Post by 8bitsrule »

ihsw wrote: post #412
fnordpiglet wrote: post #283

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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

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Making the government small enough to drown in the bathtub? (Grover Norquist's goal)
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