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Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by manojlds »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #538
baxtr wrote: post #478

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I picked up Claude today after being away and using only ChatGPT and Gemini for a while. I was pretty impressed with how they’ve improved user experience. If I had to guess, I’d say Anthropic has better product people who put more attention to detail in these areas.

ChatGPT has given more for my 20$ than any other vendor. And that’s not even considering codex which is so good and the limits are much much higher

How is that relevant? Also, when you are behind you do give more usage

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by majormajor »

hamasho wrote: post #607
baxtr wrote: post #478

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I picked up Claude today after being away and using only ChatGPT and Gemini for a while. I was pretty impressed with how they’ve improved user experience. If I had to guess, I’d say Anthropic has better product people who put more attention to detail in these areas.

I agree, but in general those chat apps have relatively bad user experiences for multibillion BtoC company. I used to have a lot of surprises and frustrations while using Claude Code / Desktop, and still encounter issues, but it's the best in major LLM services.

It's funny cause, you know, fixing all those little nitty gritty things should be practically automatic with their own offerings... have your agent put in a lot of instrumentation... have it chase down bugs or dead-end user-journeys... have it go make the changes to fix it...

I've seen these tools work for this kinda stuff sometimes... you'd think nobody would be better at it than the creators of the tools.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by Rohunyyy »

dotancohen wrote: post #608
andrewguenther wrote: post #473

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It looks like this doesn't work for users without accounts? It works when I'm logged in, but not logged out. I went ahead and reported it to the team. Thanks for letting us know!

No integration test for guest (non-logged in) users? Hahaha who am I kidding. No integration tests for anybody!

SDET here. A year ago when AI came into play SDET/QA roles started disappearing. People were like oh ya anyone can write tests. Then with the recent fiascos about outages and what not, I am seeing the SDE roles are disappearing and SDET roles are going back up?! Apparently AI is good at writing applications but you still need someone to make sure it is doing the right things.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by hnbad »

xyzzy9563 wrote: post #445
Chance-Device wrote: post #13

I’m sure the military and security services will enjoy it.

Do you think the US military should have handicapped technology while China gets unrestricted LLM usage from their models?

Considering that the concern is mostly and specifically about LLMs being used to automate decisions to commit acts of violence against humans: depends on how invested you are in maintaining the narrative that the US is a force for good rather than evil in the world.

Whatever happened to good old IBM's wisdom: "A computer can not be held accountable. Therefore a computer must never make a management decision."

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by falkensmaize »

steve1977 wrote: post #70
BoredPositron wrote: post #60

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because they are inherently text based as is code?

But they are abstractions made to cater to human weaknesses.

So you want LLMs to write a bunch of black box code that humans won’t be able to read and reason about easily? That will definitely end well.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by beefsack »

bwat49 wrote: post #581
gizmodo59 wrote: post #538

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ChatGPT has given more for my 20$ than any other vendor. And that’s not even considering codex which is so good and the limits are much much higher

yeah claude is great... but only if you pay $100-$200 a month

Many people buy two separate Claude pro subscriptions and that makes the limit become a non-issue. It works surprisingly well when you tend to hit the 5 hourly limit after a few hours, and hit the weekly limit after 4-5 days. $40 vs $100 is significant for a lot of people.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by hnbad »

hnbad wrote: post #626
xyzzy9563 wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the US military should have handicapped technology while China gets unrestricted LLM usage from their models?

Considering that the concern is mostly and specifically about LLMs being used to automate decisions to commit acts of violence against humans: depends on how invested you are in maintaining the narrative that the US is a force for good rather than evil in the world. Whatever happened to good old IBM's wisdom: "A computer can not be held accountable. Therefore a computer must never make a management decision."

I find it jarring how in recent years so many Americans (and especially American politicians) seem to have given up on the idea that the US should have any claim to moral superiority whatsoever and instead pivoted to American exceptionalism merely being an excuse for why Americans can't have nice things - affordable and functional public transport just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, affordable and functional health care just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, actual democratic representation just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, holding the President accountable or limiting their power just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, lower casualties from law enforcement just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, a lower incarceration rate just isn't possible in the US because the US is different, etc etc.

Even if it was often hyperbolic, inaccurate or outright wrong, I much preferred when Americans were hyped up about "US #1" and saw being behind as a temporary challenge to correct than now where American exceptionalism mostly seems to have become an excuse for why things that are bad can't be improved upon and thinking that's a problem is anti-American.

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