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Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by Reebz »

Aurornis wrote: post #387
__jl__ wrote: post #335

What a model mess! OpenAI now has three price points: GPT 5.1, GPT 5.2 and now GPT 5.4. There version numbers jump across different model lines with codex at 5.3, what they now call instant also at 5.3. Anthropic are really the only ones who managed to get this under control: Three models, priced at three different levels. New models are immediately available everywhere. Google essentially only has Preview models! Th…

> What a model mess! OpenAI now has three price points: GPT 5.1, GPT 5.2 and now GPT 5.4. I don't know, this feels unnecessarily nitpicky to me It isn't hard to understand that 5.4 > 5.2 > 5.1. It's not hard to understand that the dash-variants have unique properties that you want to look up before selecting. Especially for a target audience of software engineers skipping a version number is a common occurrence and n…

I don’t agree that it’s a nitpick - it’s a fundamental communication tool to users that describes capabilities and costs. Versioning is not the problem, but it amplifies the mess.

To be more direct on the point: Anthropic has nailed that Opus > Sonnet > Haiku.

Re: GPT-5.4

#602

Post by sreekanth850 »

baxtr wrote: post #478
Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #374

I find it quite funny how this blog post has a big "Ask ChatGPT" box at the bottom. So you might think you could ask a question about the contents of the blog post, so you type the text "summarise this blog post". And it opens a new chat window with the link to the blog post followed by "summarise this blog post". Only to be told "I can't access external URLs directly, but if you can paste the relevant text or descri…

I picked up Claude today after being away and using only ChatGPT and Gemini for a while. I was pretty impressed with how they’ve improved user experience. If I had to guess, I’d say Anthropic has better product people who put more attention to detail in these areas.

True. Everytime when i ask something gpt, it use to spit out long stories. Claude ans gemini are always straight to point.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by twelvedogs »

sreekanth850 wrote: post #602
baxtr wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I picked up Claude today after being away and using only ChatGPT and Gemini for a while. I was pretty impressed with how they’ve improved user experience. If I had to guess, I’d say Anthropic has better product people who put more attention to detail in these areas.

True. Everytime when i ask something gpt, it use to spit out long stories. Claude ans gemini are always straight to point.

I bullied it into giving me concise answers, now it starts every answer with "just quickly" or something similar but it gets straight to the point

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by zof3 »

After spending a couple hours working with it, it feels like a significant jump from 5.3 codex – and I know they said it wasn't theoretically the biggest jump, but this feels like the improvement of Opus 4.5 over again – that minor improvement that hits a tipping point. It just gets stuff right, first try. Its edits are better, more refined, less spaghetti-like.

If you last used 5.2, try 5.4 on High.

Re: GPT-5.4

#605

Post by jsemrau »

L-four wrote: post #370
strongpigeon wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google essentially only has Preview models! The last GA is 2.5. As a developer, I can either use an outdated model or have zero insurances that the model doesn't get discontinued within weeks. What's funny is that there is this common meme at Google: you can either use the old, unmaintained tool that's used everywhere, or the new beta tools that doesn't quite do what you want. Not quite the same, but it did remind…

Gmail was in beta for 5 years, until 2009.

It was a different company back then. The Internet was still new-ish and not the multi-trillion dollar company it is now. I'd think expectations are different.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by hamasho »

baxtr wrote: post #478
Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #374

I find it quite funny how this blog post has a big "Ask ChatGPT" box at the bottom. So you might think you could ask a question about the contents of the blog post, so you type the text "summarise this blog post". And it opens a new chat window with the link to the blog post followed by "summarise this blog post". Only to be told "I can't access external URLs directly, but if you can paste the relevant text or descri…

I picked up Claude today after being away and using only ChatGPT and Gemini for a while. I was pretty impressed with how they’ve improved user experience. If I had to guess, I’d say Anthropic has better product people who put more attention to detail in these areas.

I agree, but in general those chat apps have relatively bad user experiences for multibillion BtoC company. I used to have a lot of surprises and frustrations while using Claude Code / Desktop, and still encounter issues, but it's the best in major LLM services.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by dotancohen »

andrewguenther wrote: post #473
Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #374

I find it quite funny how this blog post has a big "Ask ChatGPT" box at the bottom. So you might think you could ask a question about the contents of the blog post, so you type the text "summarise this blog post". And it opens a new chat window with the link to the blog post followed by "summarise this blog post". Only to be told "I can't access external URLs directly, but if you can paste the relevant text or descri…

It looks like this doesn't work for users without accounts? It works when I'm logged in, but not logged out. I went ahead and reported it to the team. Thanks for letting us know!

No integration test for guest (non-logged in) users?

Hahaha who am I kidding. No integration tests for anybody!

Re: GPT-5.4

#609

Post by com2kid »

Reebz wrote: post #601
Aurornis wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What a model mess! OpenAI now has three price points: GPT 5.1, GPT 5.2 and now GPT 5.4. I don't know, this feels unnecessarily nitpicky to me It isn't hard to understand that 5.4 > 5.2 > 5.1. It's not hard to understand that the dash-variants have unique properties that you want to look up before selecting. Especially for a target audience of software engineers skipping a version number is a common occurrence and n…

I don’t agree that it’s a nitpick - it’s a fundamental communication tool to users that describes capabilities and costs. Versioning is not the problem, but it amplifies the mess. To be more direct on the point: Anthropic has nailed that Opus > Sonnet > Haiku.

> To be more direct on the point: Anthropic has nailed that Opus > Sonnet > Haiku.

Holy cow I never realized and I had to keep checking which model was which, I never had managed to remember which model was which size before because I never realized there was a theme with the names!

Re: GPT-5.4

#610

Post by jijji »

__jl__ wrote: post #335

What a model mess! OpenAI now has three price points: GPT 5.1, GPT 5.2 and now GPT 5.4. There version numbers jump across different model lines with codex at 5.3, what they now call instant also at 5.3. Anthropic are really the only ones who managed to get this under control: Three models, priced at three different levels. New models are immediately available everywhere. Google essentially only has Preview models! Th…

I tried to use Google's Gemini CLI from the command line on linux and I think it let me type in two sentences and then it told me that I was out of credits... and then I started reading comments that it would overwrite files destructively [0] or worse just try to rewrite an entire existing codebase [1]. it just doesn't sound ready for prime time. I think they wanted to push something out to compete with Claude code but it's just really really bad.

[0] https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/17583

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1l8vil5/gemini_keeps_...

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