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Post by ianburrell »

dylan604 wrote: post #508
jrmg wrote: post #500

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There’s something to what you’re saying - but it’s also something of a spectrum. Our need to turn up the volume in dialog scenes and turn it back down again in action scenes (for both new and old content) got a lot less when we added a mid-range soundbar and sub to our mid-range TV (previously was using just the TV speakers). I’m not sure whether it’s sound separation - now we have a ‘more proper’ center channel - or…

Audio has become a WTF situation for me. I grew up with speakers that had a driver for low ends some where in the 8"-12", a driver for the mids typically in the 4"-6", and then a third for the highs in various forms of a tweeter. These were all internally crossed over so that only a single cable was necessary. Now, we have "satellite" speakers that are smaller than the tweeter and are touted as being all that's neces…

My theory is that many people don’t have space for speakers. Soundbar sounds better than TV speakers.

I also think the focus on surround means people don’t consider stereo speakers. Good bookshelf speakers are better than surround kits and easier to install. I also wonder if normal speakers are no longer cool.

Finally, I wonder if people don’t like the big receivers. There are small amplifiers but I can’t find one that works in home theater with HDMI port.

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Post by sevensor »

ChoGGi wrote: post #601
sevensor wrote: post #463

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Ah, thank you. I’ve seen that, and it’s horrible!

It's called that from 90s soap operas using cheap 60 Hz video cameras instead of film.

That totally makes sense; in fact my gut reaction was “why does this look like it was shot on video? I could swear this show used to look better.”

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Post by sethhochberg »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #606
robhlt wrote: post #495

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"Filmmaker mode" is the industry's attempt at this. On supported TVs it's just another picture mode (like vivid or standard), but it disables all the junk the other modes have enabled by default without wading though all the individual settings. I don't know how widely adopted it is though, but my LG OLED from 2020 has it.

On my Samsung film mode has an insane amount of processing. Game Mode is the setting where the display is most true to what's being sent to it.

Game mode being latency-optimized really is the saving grace in a market segment where the big brands try to keep hardware cost as cheap as possible. Sure, you _could_ have a game mode that does all of the fancy processing closer to real-time, but now you can't use a bargain-basement CPU.

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Post by robhlt »

burnte wrote: post #535
robhlt wrote: post #495

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"Filmmaker mode" is the industry's attempt at this. On supported TVs it's just another picture mode (like vivid or standard), but it disables all the junk the other modes have enabled by default without wading though all the individual settings. I don't know how widely adopted it is though, but my LG OLED from 2020 has it.

The problem with filmmaker mode is I don't trust it more than other modes. It would take no effort at all for a TV maker to start fiddling whit "filmmaker mode" to boost colors or something to "get an edge", then everyone does it, and we're back to where we started. I just turn them off and leave it that way. Companies have already proven time and again they'll make changes we don't like just because they can, so it'…

"Filmmaker mode" is a trademark of the UHD Alliance, so if TV makers want to deviate from the spec they can't call it "Filmmaker mode" anymore. There's a few different TV makers in the UHD Alliance so there's an incentive for the spec to not have wiggle room that one member could exploit to the determent of the others.

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Post by anon7000 »

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I've watched Silo season 2 and it is basically impossible to watch it during the day. Only at night, with brightness cranked up to 100%.

Game of Thrones S8E3. Could barely tell what was going on, everything was so dark, and black crush killed it completely, making it look blocky and janky. I watched it again a few years later, on max brightness, sitting in the dark, and I got more of what was going on, but it still looked terrible. One day I'll watch the 'UHD' 4k HDR version and maybe I'll be able to see what it was supposed to look like.

Problem is, you’ll have to find a high bitrate version. Whatever they streamed on HBO the day of release was really shitty bitrate which crushes detail in detail-starved scenes like these

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Post by WillPostForFood »

drdec wrote: post #481
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Costco’s whole thing is selling larger quantities, most times at a lower per unit price than other retailers such as Walmart. Walmart’s wholesale competitor to Costco is Sam’s Club. Also, Costco’s price labels always show the per unit price of the product (as do Walmart’s, in my experience).

Showing a unit price on the label is a requirement of US law.

There is no federal law requiring unit requiring unit pricing, but the the NIST has guidelines that most grocery stores follow voluntarily. 9 states have adopted the guidelines as law.

https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2023/02/09/2023%...

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Post by anon7000 »

dontlaugh wrote: post #251
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Most of the issues (like "judder") that people have with 24fps are due to viewing it on 60 fps screens, which will sometimes double a frame, sometimes triple it, creating uneven motion. Viewing a well shot film with perfect, expressive motion blur on a proper film screen is surprisingly smooth. The "soap opera" feel is NOT from bad interpolation that can somehow be done right. It's inherent from the high frame rate.…

I have a 120 fps TV. Panning shots at 24 fps still give me an instant headache. Real is good, it’s ergonomic and accessible. Until filmmakers understand that, I’ll have to keep interpolation on at the lowest setting.

It depends on the shot a lot too. Good DPs will use a panning speed that looks much smoother at 24fps.

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Post by pitched »

iknowstuff wrote: post #627

The 120Hz / "soap opera effect" is a matter of perspective. I hate the judder and blur during 30Hz camera pans. Love interpolated smoothness.

I was a huge fan of the high-framerate Hobbit films. It made the huge battles much easier to follow and I felt like I picked up a lot more of the details. Such a shame it never had a retail release.

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Post by jihadjihad »

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I wish there was more Holly and her character was developed more. She’s interesting in a world of nerds as a girl who likes girl things. Like it’s an interesting character moment when she sees the bandana and goes to find it because her fashion is important to her. And then they crammed in all this character development when she dumps on Max that she feels guilty for everything. Basically I think the main problem wit…

All of what you said is accurate, but the problems are unfixable at this point, for two reasons: 1. Millie Bobbie Brown, the actor of Eleven, is unfathomably stupid (watch any out-of-character interview with her) and the role has simply outgrown her acting abilities. They can't make Eleven do anything interesting because Millie can't act it. 2. Writers have introduced so many supporting characters and separate story…

> Millie Bobbie Brown, the actor of Eleven, is unfathomably stupid (watch any out-of-character interview with her)

I hunted around on YouTube for a bit, but in nothing I landed on did she come across as “unfathomably stupid.” Young and green, maybe.

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