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No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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> One fought good coding practices because he thought it was over-engineering. You would have considered me a false positive then, despite the success of my career.

Nobody is perfect for every job. A phone app is one thing, ERP or accounting is another, avionics is another.

ahahahahahahahahahaha, the arrogance in this comment cracks me up. You have no idea the software I write, don't make assumptions.

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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It's the small things this whole industry is a toxic brew I'm sick of all of it

Do you have a plan on something else to do? I quit my job and got a part time job doing development in a different field after a few toxic years. The same lack of understanding/appreciation can be felt in some jobs, but a change might be good? Ultimately I'd work at a garden centre or something and be outside more, but the pay would be less ! In any case, hope you have a plan.

Look

https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/mcintosh-amp-factory...

This is how software could be instead it's a joyless endeavour perpetrated by sexless beta humanoids at the behest of busy waiting plate spinners and their poorly invested overlords

We should value our work more than becoming human hamsters in a corporate machine headed nowhere at light speed

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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I'm so disappointed to read comments on this thread to the effect of "There's nothing in it for the company but risk". I once put in about 8 hours on a take home project at a company (well known in these parts) that I had tremendous respect for, only to get an email back with "sorry, not up to par. We need someone with more experience". I asked them for a couple quick points on what I could have done better. I had ze…

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Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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Please stop using HN for ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Alright, but at the same time, HN is letting through fundamentally political articles, such as the "How ‘big law’ makes big money" one, which isn't even tangentially related to tech. When HN does so, and concurrently says that's not OK material because it baits flames, how are we supposed to know the limits of our public participation as commenters, with those conflicting messages? If an article is technical, people…

HN is for more than "tech". That's in the first paragraph of the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Inevitably, there is political overlap in many of the articles that get posted here—some more, some less. But when there's more, it's particularly important that people stay within the spirit of the site and avoid posting in the flamewar style. Note this rule: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You're right that it's a tricky situation to navigate when some political topics are allowed, and yet we're still trying to have discussion that doesn't degenerate. I've written a lot in the past about how we approach this. Maybe take a look? If you have questions that I haven't already answered in there somewhere, I'd like to know what they are.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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I dislike pseudocode. I make candidates use an actual language because it smoke checks the ones who put X years of Y language. I don't demand perfection, just that the general shape be there.

Which would punish people like me who will work across 3-4 languages daily and therefore often forget or confuse which library call does what in what language.

Same here. Sometimes I forgot how to define a class method. Is it def? Is it func?

I can write Rubyish, Goish, Pythonish or PHPish pseudocode, but the syntax will be only 90% correct. I remember distinguishing features(like Ruby blocks), but features that all language has always a blur.

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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Oddly, I had the exact opposite experience interviewing at Microsoft. I blazed through all the questions the manager asked, and the manager told me I was the most talented person he'd ever interviewed and would definitely get the job, and then I didn't get the job, and got no further feedback. It was the most confusing interview process I'd ever been in. I sent him to ask him if there was some sort of mistake, and he…

How'd you do on the interpersonal questions?

It was ten years ago so I don't remember. I don't remember anyone disliking me or anything, though.

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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It's pretty common in my experience.

Have never seen it in 25 years of working in the industry. Sounds like it's more common than I thought (who's the naive one lol).

I've mainly seen it with small companies.

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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I witnessed a candidate ask a question along these lines in a group interview and I found it extremely awkward, because there was huge potential for disagreement amongst the interviewers, and also because this group consisted of people who had a stake in the hire as future coworkers for the role, but were not members of the search committee making the final hire decision, we were just providing feedback to the search…

> group interview Off. That's not a good look.

Don't ever interview at an academic library, then. It seems to be the only way we do interviews at mine, and I gather it's not an unusual practice in this field.

That said, I have participated in group interviews when I still worked in the tech industry, and I have found I prefer it to 1:1 interviews. As an interviewer, it feels more conducive to behavioral interviewing, and more people get to weigh in on the hire. As an interviewee, I found it makes the interview more conversational and sets me more at ease. I wish it was more common.

Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback

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Do it anyway. You know if someone you don't remember from an interaction ages ago emailed you to say "Hey, you probably don't remember this, but you once told me $thing, so I took $action, and now I've achieved $outcome. Thanks you for that, it really helped my career!", it'd make you feel great and would probably be the highlight of your day, right?

Earlier today I was sitting in a presentation by a faculty member who included a slide with an email quote from a former student who did exactly what you said right before the presentation. It absolutely made his day. And I know the former student and have a hunch he reads HackerNews. This also made my day because I saw the real-world impact of something on HackerNews. And perhaps it will make your day to know your c…

Thanks, and yeah - it's made a rainy Sunday afternoon quite a bit brighter :-)
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