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No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
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Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#282I'm so disappointed to read comments on this thread to the effect of "There's nothing in it for the company but risk". I once put in about 8 hours on a take home project at a company (well known in these parts) that I had tremendous respect for, only to get an email back with "sorry, not up to par. We need someone with more experience". I asked them for a couple quick points on what I could have done better. I had ze…
Non paid take home projects... Huge red flag.
I see this a lot but it seems fairly naive to expect. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to do them, but to get paid? Has anyone in the history of the world been paid for an interview take home project? Curious how it was set up and what the rate was. Did you have to file taxes? Was it 1099?
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#283I am in a somewhat unique position of interviewing and hiring for two completely different industries. Whether it’s true or not that no engineer has sued for constructive post-interview feedback, it’s unfortunately absolutely not possible to make the same claim for teachers/adjunct faculty.
That said and for both industries, it’s usually pretty clear who’s the litigious type (heck, they oftentimes go out of their way to make sure you know) and who’s not, and I feel like if someone came to interview in earnest and put an honest effort, they at least deserve some return of the gesture. But my time is worth something too, so I only bother if the person is within an order of magnitude of the skill set we are looking for (or clearly has the potential to be). If they can’t write a proper conditional statement, they’re not going to benefit from an explanation of how their code will also run into a pathological edge case in the GC.
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have it exactly right. Companies are protecting themselves from more than just legal action - Glassdoor reviews have a huge influence on how candidates view your company (especially true for startups).
I once left a bad review on Glassdoor after a truly awful interview experience for a startup. The next day they called me up and threatened legal action. Edit: Just for context on the interview—they had me do a take home assignment in Django, which I had never worked in. Was desperate, so I learned Django and completed it in a week. Went onsite and their whole office was a one tiny, dated swelteringly hot room. The i…
What happened next?
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#285I'm so disappointed to read comments on this thread to the effect of "There's nothing in it for the company but risk". I once put in about 8 hours on a take home project at a company (well known in these parts) that I had tremendous respect for, only to get an email back with "sorry, not up to par. We need someone with more experience". I asked them for a couple quick points on what I could have done better. I had ze…
I had a guy at Qualcomm Austin tell me to read Advanced Compiler Design and Implementation by Muchnik. I read it and a few months later I was working for Qualcomm San Diego. I've thought about thanking him but I doubt he'd remember me, it was such a small comment.
Do it anyway.
You know if someone you don't remember from an interaction ages ago emailed you to say "Hey, you probably don't remember this, but you once told me $thing, so I took $action, and now I've achieved $outcome. Thanks you for that, it really helped my career!", it'd make you feel great and would probably be the highlight of your day, right?
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non paid take home projects... Huge red flag.
I see this a lot but it seems fairly naive to expect. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to do them, but to get paid? Has anyone in the history of the world been paid for an interview take home project? Curious how it was set up and what the rate was. Did you have to file taxes? Was it 1099?
I have. It was a few hundred bucks. There was a tax form, but I don't recall specifically what it was.
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see this a lot but it seems fairly naive to expect. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to do them, but to get paid? Has anyone in the history of the world been paid for an interview take home project? Curious how it was set up and what the rate was. Did you have to file taxes? Was it 1099?
I have. It was a few hundred bucks. There was a tax form, but I don't recall specifically what it was.
Interesting. USA?
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hot take: you could hire someone who did absolutely well in the interview, and they could find a few weeks into the job that they loathe everyone, and go on a social media rampage. What I’m getting at is, there will always be bad apples, or people who react in a way that damages your organization. But not providing useful feedback to people who ask for it simply because one person went crazy is punishing a lot more p…
Please stop referring to software developers as engineers, unless they are fully registered members of the state association of engineers.
Doesn't apply in my jurisdiction.
And even in places where it does, like Texas, I've never heard of it being applied to software. Like Dell doesn't require a degree for their engineer positions.
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#289I got verbal feedback exactly one time (at Microsoft) during my attempt to land a post-1-year of university internship. I had solved the algorithm in a few minutes, but when trying to code it up, I struggled a fair amount before figuring it out. The feedback I got was "You seem like a smart person, who hasn't done very much coding. That makes you a bad risk. Go practice programming and come back next year". It was in…
> You seem like a smart person, who hasn't done very much coding. That makes you a bad risk, Assuming Microsoft actually measures this stuff, that's kind of surprising to me. I've never placed much weight on being able to write a program on the spot.
It's been awhile since I last interviewed at Microsoft, but the only coding I did was on a whiteboard.
The best part about it? I was already a full time employee at Microsoft. I just wanted to switch teams. I still had to do a full interview loop with the team and well... I didn't get the job.
Re: No engineer has ever sued because of constructive post-interview feedback
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non paid take home projects... Huge red flag.
I see this a lot but it seems fairly naive to expect. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to do them, but to get paid? Has anyone in the history of the world been paid for an interview take home project? Curious how it was set up and what the rate was. Did you have to file taxes? Was it 1099?
It's pretty common in my experience.