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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by phaus » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:30 PM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #567

gcb0 wrote: post #476

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i'd take the rubber coated ones over the cold and sharp metal ones you call 'cool' any time. but i guess everyone in SF just use macbooks on their desks at all times.

As a traveling consultant, the durability of the Thinkpad design is nice, but holy hell does it suck to carry through an airport, or to shove under the seat in front of you. I've had to switch to a backpack for my laptop, since a normal bag puts too much weight on one side of my body. A backpack is so much less professional than a laptop bag. And then I drop it from a table onto a cement floor and the body cracks and…

It doesn't sound like you are making fair comparisons between Thinkpads and Macbooks. My 15" T550 is just .2 lbs heavier than a 15" Macbook Pro. The charger for my T550 is much lighter than the one I have for my Macbook Pro, so the overall weight might actually favor the Thinkpad. The 13" business-class ultrabooks that Lenovo sells are pretty close in weight to the 13" Macbook Pro and the Macbook Air.

It sounds like you are basing your opinion off of an old system or a current model that isn't even in the same class as a Macbook.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by listic » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:30 PM UTC

josu wrote: post #234

voiceclonr wrote: post #207

Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.

On top of that there is a typo: "Intel HG Graphics" http://i.imgur.com/kLt8Ydz.png

Wow Microsoft, do you even proofread? :P

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by snerbles » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:32 PM UTC

devit wrote: post #495

ksherlock wrote: post #369

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* 128GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB ($1499) * 256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB ($1699) * 256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB / dGPU ($1899) * 256GB / Core Intel i7 - 8GB / dGPU ($2099) * 512GB / Core Intel i7 - 16GB / dGPU ($2699)

This pricing is absurd, you are better off buying the cheaper models and adding a $350 1TB SSD and 8GB RAM for less than $100... Assuming they haven't somehow locked the hardware.

At that thickness I would assume that the RAM is soldered to the motherboard.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by sixothree » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:33 PM UTC

dade_ wrote: post #493

MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

And for those of us early adopters with the Surface Pro 3, I can upgrade my pen and use the new charging doc. Well done. Feels thoughtful, not something I can say about my Asus Windows tablet experience.

Can you use the old dock with the Surface Pro 4?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by k__ » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:33 PM UTC

Poyeyo wrote: post #527

k__ wrote: post #270

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I found compiling on Windows always a bit of a PITA. On Linux I just install build-essentials and everything works fine. On Windows I had to install a specific version of VS and fiddle around with the path to get things running. But maybe there is something like the build-essentials package in chocolatey? The terminal command history also feels strange. But I like cls more than clear, haha :D

Compiling what? May be some of us can help you. If it's C++, I did learn cmake, and now I use the same script for Ubuntu and for Win7/VS2008 and Win8.1/VS2012, and so far I just don't care about compilation issues anymore. Sadly the VS site only has VS2015 now. But yes, the first time you have to check the VS version and add all the proper env vars for the cmake scripts to find the libraries. But anyway, it is much b…

Native modules for Node.js for example.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by scholia » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

swah wrote: post #424

fumar wrote: post #80

As a Surface Pro 3 user, who saves a Macbook Pro for heavy lifting (like video) at home, I can safely say the MB is getting replaced with the Surface Book. Depending on in-person use, it might also replace the Surface Pro 3. I typically watch Apple's and Google's product launches, have to to say this event was concise and unveiled products in a great forward moving momentum. Solid work Msoft marketing team!

I thought video people used OSX due to the apps available?

I meet an increasingly large number who use Windows now. They're often people who used to use Mac Pros and switched to PC towers when that fell behind in price/performance.

The new Mac Pro is very expensive compared to what you can assemble in a PC tower, and the tower gives you a lot more flexibility.

As others have said, there's plenty of video editing software for PCs. The main one that's missing is Apple's Final Cut Pro (which Apple bought from Macromedia, though it's changed a lot since then).

See http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page/87-what-pc-to-use/9...

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by jtuente » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:36 PM UTC

bsilvereagle wrote: post #600

agumonkey wrote: post #491

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VAIO had an edge a while back. Toshiba still throw some stuff from time to time. Panasonic too but in the survivor category.

Somewhat off topic, what're Vaio users migrating to? I look every year or so to see what the current laptop offerings are, and nothing has convinced me to leave my 5+ year old Vaio.

The new Vaios? Vaio recently announced their newest offerings and they look, to me, like they're still in that high-end business offerings bracket.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by nogridbag » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

bsilvereagle wrote: post #600

agumonkey wrote: post #491

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VAIO had an edge a while back. Toshiba still throw some stuff from time to time. Panasonic too but in the survivor category.

Somewhat off topic, what're Vaio users migrating to? I look every year or so to see what the current laptop offerings are, and nothing has convinced me to leave my 5+ year old Vaio.

Sony recently released the Vaio Z Canvas (who comes up with these names???) which you can demo/pre-order in the Microsoft Store. I tried to use it, but I believe the keyboard was dead (I guess since it fully detaches from the display and was not being actively charged). It also seems nearly impossible to use on your lap.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by samstave » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

ohitsdom wrote: post #584

samstave wrote: post #520

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Hmm, the fact that all the ports are in the stand sucks. I like to pull the keyboard off my surface 3 and lean it up against the wall and watch movies on it while still having mouse control from a distance. What we really need is for every device to have an embedded Logitech controller so I no long need the usb nub dongle

Why do you need a dongle if it has bluetooth?

Bluetooth nice suck and have lag issues. It may be a subjective feeling but I hate blue tooth mice

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by snuxoll » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

niels_olson wrote: post #410

exelius wrote: post #335

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Yeah, the UI is shit, though in the next server release they're adding native PowerShell over SSH, so hopefully you should never have to log in to one again.

will I need a CAL to SSH in?

By definition of how Windows Server is still licensed, yes, you will. Anyone using any resource hosted on a Windows Server system (with exception to public websites) needs a CAL.