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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Is flat rate the best way to describe it when there's actually a few different tiers and each one has hard coded rate limits?

Within each tier, each marginal token is an expense with no marginal revenue to offset. So yes. The platonic ideal for any subscription business model is zero usage.

I run an AI subscription business and we have our pricing set in a way that we make an acceptable profit even if all users were to max out their given usage

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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> I don't know what "openclaw" is. It's not something I have knowledge of, and it doesn't appear in your memory or this project's context. As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. But having Claude deny the existence of OpenClaw is a way more hazardous and likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution: https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

Come on, folks. This is not a conspiracy. LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that. OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.

Fair call.

I don't think couching it as conspiracy is the right frame either. This is not a one-off. I think a critical eye is warranted.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Within each tier, each marginal token is an expense with no marginal revenue to offset. So yes. The platonic ideal for any subscription business model is zero usage.

I run an AI subscription business and we have our pricing set in a way that we make an acceptable profit even if all users were to max out their given usage

Of course. My point is that your profit still decreases as you approach max usage, ceteris parabis. It may be acceptable but it is less. Your costs are variable and your revenue is fixed (at least on a unit basis).

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Reminds me of https://www.macchaffee.com/blog/2024/you-have-built-a-kubern...

And Kubernetes kinda built a BEAM... kinda :) Like, if everyone would just use BEAM then it's true (lol).

What is BEAM? I get, like, physical beams when I try looking it up.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Come on, folks. This is not a conspiracy. LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that. OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.

Knowledge cutoff is completely insufficient as an explanation. These models have access to a web search tool. Gemini and ChatGPT both happily search for give info on OpenClaw. Claude denies all knowledge. What’s more it’s this part that’s very concerning.. Banned for wrong think.. > I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

the model has no such magical access to tools.

it's the harness which responds to the models replies that has access to the tools.

I wish people would continue to reiterate this difference.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

Ooh clever idea.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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My assumption is that a lot of these checks and changes lately are not well though out. They are knee jerk reaction to address something which was not anticipated in the original design. A lot of these changes to address scaling and abuse challenges probably fall into bucket of applying bandages on top of bandages. Maybe if Claude could build something to validate the baseline quality of the product to ensure these t…

What continues to perplex me is that these people claim that they will be able to contain AGI yet can't roll out a regex match? If AGI is possible then we're most certainly not containing anything.

Don't worry. AGI will be vibe-coded too.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Claude.ai is now at a 98.85% uptime. There's been so many frustrations with Claude / Anthropic lately (very heavy usage limits, wrong A / B testing, etc.). Claude status: https://status.claude.com/ I have been really happy with my Codex subscription lately, but feels like these things change every other day. The OpenCode Go subscription for trying out GLM, Kimi, Qwen, Deepseek and friends also looks useful. But nonet…

The last few days I've seen more degradations and canceled my Max subscription. Presumptuous and wrong "memories" from a one-off command which affect all future commands, repeated/nonsensical phrases in messages, novel display bugs which make going back in the conversation impossible (I can't tell where I am), lack of basic forking features (resume a current convo in a second CC instance -> fork = no history for that…

Would you mind sharing what specific Qwen model you are running and how (Llama, vLLM, etc.)?
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