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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by nozzlegear »

rubslopes wrote: post #97
bryanhogan wrote: post #56

Claude.ai is now at a 98.85% uptime. There's been so many frustrations with Claude / Anthropic lately (very heavy usage limits, wrong A / B testing, etc.). Claude status: https://status.claude.com/ I have been really happy with my Codex subscription lately, but feels like these things change every other day. The OpenCode Go subscription for trying out GLM, Kimi, Qwen, Deepseek and friends also looks useful. But nonet…

April has been a crazy month for open weights models. I've been using Claude Code for work and Kimi 2.6 for personal projects and Kimi has been very good. Glm-5.1 is also great. Qwen, Mimo and Deepseek I need to test some more, but they all have been producing good results. I have the impression that they are all are at the same level, or close to, Sonnet 4.6.

I've been using qwen 3.6 with oMLX on my M1 Mac Studio and it's been awesome. Took a while to get things set up, figure out which of the hundreds of models would be a good fit for my use case, and then get it strapped into opencode's harness, but it works! Its slower than a hosted model, obviously, but I'm tickled pink that I can give it a relatively complex chore, like I would've with my a Claude Pro subscription, and it'll churn away on it with good results and no god damn arbitrary usage limits.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by gwerbin »

rubslopes wrote: post #432
abustamam wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say harness what do you mean? I see the term thrown around a lot and I think it's lost its meaning in some fashion.

A fellow user replied below, but it refers to the software that uses the LLM (Claude Code, Opencode, pi.dev, etc.). --- Funny you mention that, because I started noticing the word 'harness' being used everywhere about a month ago, even though I hadn’t seen it before (in this context). As I don’t trust my memory, I assumed I had just been overlooking it and added it to my vocabulary. However, a Google Trends search do…

Interesting timing, because I think it was in March when I had a chat with Gemini about what the heck these things are supposed to be called, and that's where I first heard the term.

It's probably just a coincidence. But that would be pretty interesting if we have an example of some kind of memetic phenomenon where one or more popular LLMs makes a claim that people then start to repeat as true, or at least follow up on it and start writing about it, and in so doing the claim becomes true. Even if it didn't happen in this case, I feel like it's only a matter of time.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by biztos »

tantalor wrote: post #92
jrflo wrote: post #21

I think it goes beyond this. I was just using claude to edit a blog post which mentioned OpenClaw and I got this response: "The "OpenClaw" reference — I assume that's a typo or playful reference; if you mean a real product, I couldn't find it under that spelling and you'll want to fix or footnote it.". I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit. Could have been a co…

It doesn't look like anything to me

Going off-topic now, but you probably would want a "knowledge cutoff date" in Westworld, wouldn't you?

Can't have the Hosts getting riled up about the Gavinite-Baronite skirmishes, even if the Guests are all hot and bothered.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

jamwil wrote: post #517
Yajirobe wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they treat is as a trojan horse? More OpenClaw usage means more Claude usage. Isn't more Claude usage what Anthropic wants?

Not when their customers are paying a flat rate subscription.

Is flat rate the best way to describe it when there's actually a few different tiers and each one has hard coded rate limits?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by jeeeb »

kentonv wrote: post #553
jwilliams wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know what "openclaw" is. It's not something I have knowledge of, and it doesn't appear in your memory or this project's context. As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. But having Claude deny the existence of OpenClaw is a way more hazardous and likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution: https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

Come on, folks. This is not a conspiracy. LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that. OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.

Knowledge cutoff is completely insufficient as an explanation.

These models have access to a web search tool. Gemini and ChatGPT both happily search for give info on OpenClaw. Claude denies all knowledge.

What’s more it’s this part that’s very concerning.. Banned for wrong think..

> I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by ptrl600 »

petercooper wrote: post #232
abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

Or place offhand comments on potential malicious uses of code, to freak it out.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by rurp »

vscode-rest wrote: post #101
p0w3n3d wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dragons steal gold and jewels... and they guard their plunder as long as they live... and never enjoy a brass ring of it. Indeed they hardly know a good bit of work from a bad, though they usually have a good notion of the market value

My theory is the dragons actually benefit immensely from sitting atop the gold piles as it acts as an amazing heat sink. I don’t think that really fits with the metaphor but I wanted to say my piece regardless.

I always thought dragons were reptilian and therefore cold blooded.
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