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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Forced to admit that what Hunter Biden stories were factual? And did any of those stories relate to Joe Biden?

Does stories about Joe Biden's son relate to Joe Biden? Are you shitting us? Stories about Trumps children trend for weeks if there's anything negative... they don't get suppressed, questioned or challenged. Hunter is accused of being a Crack Addict, a pedophile, selling influence, etc... each enough to sit in the media for weeks and it's all swept under the rug. Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national eme…

> Trump supposedly says shithole and it's a national emergency... Biden supposedly gets a cut from his son's business dealings in China/Russia/etc and it's nothing.

The WSJ investigated that story at the time and said that there wasn't sufficient evidence. If you have issues, you should blame the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partn...

Note the following quote "corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden"

If the right leaning WSJ isn't willing to support a story like this, why do you think it's true?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Lyrics: [Intro: Joe Biden & Bryson Gray] The various shots the people are getting now cover that They're-, they're-, they're okay You're not gonna-, you're not gonna get COVID if you have these vaccinations Somebody gotta do it Ayy [Chorus: Bryson Gray] Let's go, Brandon I keep a drum like I'm Nick Cannon, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy (Brrt, brrt) Let's go, Brandon Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it, ayy, ayy (They just…

> Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it Sounds like medical misinformation to me.

What specifically? I read that statement as saying that this isn’t accidental, not that Covid-19 literally doesn’t exist.

I disagree with that conspiracy theory, but you can hardly call it medical misinformation in my judgment.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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OP's question appears to invert the burden of proof in assuming that a consensus, even of experts, ought to be believed unless there are compelling reasons not to accept it. Where is the evidence that a consensus is a good metric for the truth of a matter? Has there been any work done to establish such a correspondence? Asimov seems to be arguing that there are degrees of wrongness, and one can become less wrong by a…

> OP's question appears to invert the burden of proof in assuming that a consensus, even of experts, ought to be believed unless there are compelling reasons not to accept it. Again, I pose the question, what is a reasonable alternative? >Asimov seems to be arguing that there are degrees of wrongness, and one can become less wrong by a process of rational error elimination and criticism. How does the mere fact of a c…

>Again, I pose the question, what is a reasonable alternative?

Again, this inverts the burden of proof. There is no obligation to provide any alternative, and no obligation to defer to a consensus in the absence of one.

>Scientific consensus is the result of the majority of experts in a field using the scientific process to agree on the "least wrong" information possible given the data available at that time. If you claim not to see the bearing on this process, you're being dishonestly obtuse.

I see no evidence that this narrative is generally true, and it is a very weak argument for taking consensus as a metric of truthfulness.

>If you have a better way of obtaining "the truth", I would be very glad to learn about it.

One does not require a better way of obtaining the truth in order to avoid committing oneself to accepting unjustified claims. Again, such a requirement inverts the burden of proof.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Surely it's selling presidential favours? The whole Hunter art work stuff is ridiculously dubious... And yes, equal concern for any president. Trump largely cared mostly about stuffing his pockets full of money.

My take on the Hunter Biden affair -- low level, old school, genteel corruption. Akin to the corruption that political "donations" bring. Disclaimer, I voted for Biden but am willing to call out his failures at any time. The reason why I'm ok with "censoring" the Hunter stories at that time is that it was purely whataboutism and a distraction. Just like with the buttery males, it was never about the professed concern…

The whole central claim that started this was the allegations that Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating the company that was paying Hunter for his "services". If it's true that foreign interests were bribing the vice president of the USA though payments to his son in order to change American policy then that is indeed a staggering level of corruption. For comparison the president of South Korea was sentenced to 20 years in prison for a comparable scheme.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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They share a bank account, Joe had an “office” at the failed business Hunter tried to start, and in his emails – if true, as at least some of them have been cryptographically verified to be – Hunter claims he sends a percent of all his income to his dad, a credible claim given the eye-witness corroboration of a similar communique between financial partners affirming an equity stake in a Chinese venture of “10% for th…

Can you provide a link to any of those stories from before the election? I can't find anything about the bank account earlier than Oct 12th. I don't see how that could have been "suppressed" if it only came out very recently.

Everything in my comment except the shared bank account was reported before the election, with much of the specific content being suppressed or outright banned from multiple social media networks as part of coordinated enforcement action. The New York Post, a centuries-old newspaper that broke the story, was suspended from Twitter for multiple weeks due specifically to this reporting. Twitter could be forgiven for acting according to its “hacked materials policy” meant to protect innocent doxing victims like Hunter Biden, except for the fact that just weeks earlier they featured tweets from the New York Times that published illegally obtained private tax documents of the president (who was also later banned from Twitter).

I’m skeptical of the argument that recent vindication of a suppressed story somehow justifies its original suppression.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Those kinds of sites don't work. There are no operative workarounds as far as I know.

It used to be that youtube-dl worked, but on that CIA video I now get: [youtube] _2khAmMTAjI: Downloading webpage [youtube] _2khAmMTAjI: Refetching age-gated info webpage WARNING: unable to download video info webpage: HTTP Error 410: Gone ERROR: Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Meh. The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offen…

There’s no major conspiracy here other than YouTube becoming increasingly hostile to the open web.

I would put money on Rumble becoming a major force in social media over the next ten years. It feels more like early YouTube than YouTube itself has felt for a long time.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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They share a bank account, Joe had an “office” at the failed business Hunter tried to start, and in his emails – if true, as at least some of them have been cryptographically verified to be – Hunter claims he sends a percent of all his income to his dad, a credible claim given the eye-witness corroboration of a similar communique between financial partners affirming an equity stake in a Chinese venture of “10% for th…

Can you provide a link to any of those stories from before the election? I can't find anything about the bank account earlier than Oct 12th. I don't see how that could have been "suppressed" if it only came out very recently.

Bank account reporting:

https://news.yahoo.com/hot-water-emails-uncovered-show-10061...

The senate report has interesting stuff

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep...

There’s also that time biden got the prosecutor investigating burisma fired (by withholding funds).

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-t...

Seems an awful like what Trump was impeached for...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Can you provide a link to any of those stories from before the election? I can't find anything about the bank account earlier than Oct 12th. I don't see how that could have been "suppressed" if it only came out very recently.

Bank account reporting: https://news.yahoo.com/hot-water-emails-uncovered-show-10061... The senate report has interesting stuff https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep... There’s also that time biden got the prosecutor investigating burisma fired (by withholding funds). https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-t... Seems an awful like what Trump was impeached for...

You clearly didn't read my comment. I specifically pointed out that the bank account story couldn't have been suppressed because it only came out recently.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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You can't properly understand something if you can't question it. When you elevate any idea to unquestionable capital-T Truth, you blind yourself to the actual truth. You break the only mechanism we've ever discovered for figuring out how the world actually works. Censorship of anything is the enemy of human progress and always has been.

I can agree with you, but the issue is that this isn't an academic discussion on the merits of thorough vaccine trials. Here's the third verse: "Let’s go, Brandon, we know he cappin’ Patriots out in the street takin’ action Huntin’ us down for speakin’ the truth (Huh) Beat down the PEDO, let’s save all the youth (Uh huh) Media lyin’, ignore all the cryin’ They buildin’ back better, but only the Taliban (What?) Pilots…

YouTube certainly has that right, but they enforce it at the risk of losing any credibility on claims of impartiality or “holding free speech as a core value,” like their CEO bragged about last month.

But yes, I totally agree – the song “Fuck Donald Trump” has been on YouTube for 5+ years with millions of views, and YouTube has every right to take it down.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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It's a speciality of Fox News. It promotes the outrage well when you leave out the actually objectionable part. Others do it as well of course.

Fox News was a pioneer in this technique and unfortunately CNN and MSNBC have followed suit. In the early 2000s I was always astonished by how utterly misinformed Fox News viewers were. In 2021 I am always astonished by how utterly misinformed MSNBC CNN and Fox News viewers are. On certain subjects like the statistical risk of a 35-year-old healthy person getting hospitalized for covid, Fox News viewers are actually…

Less than 0.3% of the population watches prime time TV shows on any of the networks in your comment. Unfortunately despite a small initial audience they do have wide reach in terms of distributing short clips to various factions of the Twitter mob (which also happens to be comprised of an insignificant percentage of citizens).

In some populations, a person has a better chance of catching covid and dying than they do of saying they watched Chris Cuomo last night.

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