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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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It's called motion interpolation, but a lot of TVs call it "motion smoothing". It artificially increases the frame rate. I don't really know how to describe it, but I find it a little disconcerting and I immediately turn that feature off when I buy a new TV. It almost makes the motion look more "real life" in a bad way.

Ah, thank you. I’ve seen that, and it’s horrible!

It's called that from 90s soap operas using cheap 60 Hz video cameras instead of film.

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I watch YouTube with internal TV speakers and I understand everything, even muddled accents. I cannot understand a single TV show or movie with the same speakers. Something tells me it's about the source material, not the device.

Well of course, YouTube is someone sitting in front of the camera with no background noise and speaking calmly. In a movie the characters may be far away (so it needs to sound like that, not like a podcast), running, exhausted, with a plethora of background noises and so on.

That would be true, except even in calm scenes in movies it's an issue. Unless I turn the volume high enough, in which case music and sfx become neighbor-waking loud. To be clear: I'm not talking about scenes where characters speak over an explosion. The overall mix does not allow having the same volume for all scenes of the movie, pick your poison: wake the neighbors or don't understand dialogues.

Somehow youtube videos don't have this issue. Go figure /s

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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It’s very bad.

It really isn't. I keep seeing comparisons to the last seasons of Game of Thrones, but while there is a dip in quality this season, it is no where near as bad as what happened to GoT.

They, like 7kids and 4 adults, I did not bother to count, did attack military base, with actual military trained personnel with military equipment. And they did succeed. This is not bad? They just stroll in upside down and nothing ever attacks them. Where the swarm of bats disappeared? When demogorgons attack to kidnap kids they come from upside down. But in upside down they nowhere to be seen. Military general could disappear from the series and it would have no impact. Maybe they just wanted woman in position of power? Demogorgons attack entire military base personnel and kill dozens of people but then they are killed by hospital patient. When and why she setup that trap exactly? And how she now can speak? How white goo is easy to brake but also solid enough so it does not brake under the pressure of the entire building ? How and why it just appears and solidifies in the exact right moment? And excuse me.... But wormhole? Could not they thing of something else? Oh and Vecna killing a guy. And we did not even see what was in the case. They are under strict quarantine but have personnel smuggler that can just bring them everything they want. It is not bad it is terrible.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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He is absolutely right. The soap opera effect totally ruins the look of most movies. I still use a good old 1080p plasma on default. It always looks good

Drives me insane when people say they can't tell the difference while watching with motion smoothing on. I feel for the filmmakers.

The soap opera effect drives me nuts. I just about can't watch something when it's on. It makes a multimillion dollar movie look like it was slapped together in an afternoon.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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I don’t follow Stranger Things, so I cannot speak about the quality of the show, but I clicked on the link to see which settings the guy was talking about and I was surprised about how awful the CGI of that shot looks like. It’s hideous. Looks worse than 10 year old video games. What is that about? Am I going crazy?

It does look terrible in that video, but I watch on a projector and it actually looks good on it, so I think this is simply an artifact of watching a phone recording of a TV.

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It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

"Filmmaker mode" is the industry's attempt at this. On supported TVs it's just another picture mode (like vivid or standard), but it disables all the junk the other modes have enabled by default without wading though all the individual settings. I don't know how widely adopted it is though, but my LG OLED from 2020 has it.

On my Samsung film mode has an insane amount of processing. Game Mode is the setting where the display is most true to what's being sent to it.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

My personal theory of the case is that mid-band hearing loss is more common than people want to admit and tends to go undiagnosed until old age.

It's very easy to watch an older movie on the same system and notice the contrast.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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You know when something doesn't annoy you until someone points it out? It's so obvious in hindsight. Shows like the Big Bang theory, House and Scrubs I very rarely caught two episodes consecutively (and when I did they were on some release schedule so you'd forgotten half of the plot by next week). But they are all practically self contained with only the thread of a longer term narrative being woven between them. It…

Arguably there are lots of films which could have done with being 4-5 hours long, and were compressed to match conventions and hardware limits for 'movies'. Lots of novelizations fall into this category. Most decently dense and serious novels cannot be done justice to in 2 hours. The new TV formats have enabled substantial stories to be told well. The Godfather parts I and II is just one story cut in half in a conven…

A recent example is the Wicked movie musical. It’s not a film and its sequel. It’s two parts of the stage musical produced as a film and cut in half, released a year apart.

The alternative is the 1980s version of Dune, which tried to fit a massive novel into a single mass-market film runtime. It was fantastic, but people who hadn’t read the novel were left very short on story. The newer movies I’ve heard are much better in this regard, and it’s understandable because the runtime of the combined films is longer. The Dune 2000 (AKA SciFi Presents Frank Herbert’s Dune) miniseries was even better in some ways than the original film, largely for the same reasons.

Ender’s Game deserved to be at least two parts, because even the main character got no real character development. You barely learn Val exists, there’s really no Peter, and you barely meet Bean or Petra. There’s no Alai, Achilles, Fly, or Crazy Tom. There’s no zero-G battles at Battle School. The computer game is never even mentioned but is integral to the book. I don’t think it’s even mentioned in the film that Ender is a third child and why that’s important. It could have been a much better film in two or three parts.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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More importantly, I wish I could turn off the entire Samsung 'Smart' TV UI and bring back HDMI, TV, and Apps. I get bombarded with ads and recommendations every time.

I have my LG TV dumbed down with some firewall rules in OPNsense. Something similar may help you

Interesting, perhaps a project for the holidays. Thanks for the tip

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Makes sense, but how does this explain the fact that this problem seems recent, or at least to have worsened recently ?

It hasn't. We've been having these same problems for decades. There was a while scandal about cable TV channels winding down the volume of shows so ads could play even louder.

I remember this being a problem when we first bought a DVD player in like 1999.
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