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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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I’m not turning off motion smoothing. I don’t like the ghosting it can introduce but I hate the stutter artifacts from fast motion at 24fps with a passion. I get that people who grew up on 24fps movies and 60fps soap operas have a negative association with HFR, but I didn’t and I dread the flickery edges you make me see. (yes, even with frame rate matching)

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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GoT got so bad that I don't really have any desire to watch any of the seasons ever again. Killed rewatchability.

I rewatched it in recent weeks and enjoyed all the bits that I enjoyed years ago during the first watch. The stories I found a bit tedious first time (High Sparrow plotline, Arya and faceless men) weren't as miserable; I think I was expecting them to drag on even more. My biggest grievance on the rewatch was just how poorly it's all tied up. I again enjoyed The Long Night through the lens of 'spectacle over military…

Not the actors, the showrunners.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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More importantly, I wish I could turn off the entire Samsung 'Smart' TV UI and bring back HDMI, TV, and Apps. I get bombarded with ads and recommendations every time.

I have my LG TV dumbed down with some firewall rules in OPNsense. Something similar may help you

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

I think it isn't a mixing issue, it's an acting issue. It's the obsession with accents, mixed with the native speakers' conviction that vowels are the most important part. Older movies tended to use some kind of unplaceable ("mid atlantic") accent, that could be easily understood. But modern actors try to imitate accents and almost always focus on the vowels. Most native speakers seem to be convinced that vowels are…

The Mid-Atlantic accent has fallen out of favor since at least the latter part of the 50s. The issue with hard to understand dialog is a much more recent phenomenon.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Your expectations are too high, a 30mm thick screen will never produce good audio.

Various sections of my screen (LG C series) are significantly thicker than 30mm. Also - this isn’t a speaker problem this is a content problem. I watched the princess bride last week on the TV, and didn’t require captions, but I’m watching Pluribus on Netflix and I’m finding it borderline impossible to keep up without them.

The content is mixed with decent audio systems in mind.

When you listen to that content on a good system you don't have these issues.

Nolan films are a perfect example.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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More importantly, I wish I could turn off the entire Samsung 'Smart' TV UI and bring back HDMI, TV, and Apps. I get bombarded with ads and recommendations every time.

I keep all that stuff off my LG TV by keeping the ethernet cable unplugged and let Apple TV handle all the streaming stuff. I still somewhat resent that I need to wait for the software to boot up just to change inputs, but at least I don't get ads. Hopefully Samsung works the same way?

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Release your movie in native 120 fps and I'll turn off motion interpolation. Until then, minor flickering artifacts when it fails to resolve motion, or minor haloing around edges of moving objects, are vastly preferable to unwatchable judder that I can't even interpret as motion sometimes. Every PC gamer knows you need high frame rates for camera movement. It's ridiculous the movie industry is stuck at 24 like it's t…

> Every PC gamer knows you need high frame rates for camera movement. Obviously not, because generations of people saw "movement" at 24 fps. You're railing against other people's preferences, but presenting your personal preferences as fact. Also, there are technical limitations in cameras that aren't present in video games. The higher the frame rate, the less light that hits it. To compensate, not only do you need b…

> You're railing against other people's preferences, but presenting your personal preferences as fact.

It is a fact that motion is smoother at 120 fps than 24, and therefore easier to follow on screen. There are no preferences involved.

> Also, there are technical limitations in cameras that aren't present in video games.

Cameras capable of recording high quality footage at this refresh rate already exist and their cost is not meaningful compared to the full budget of a movie (and you can use it more than one time of course).

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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It's not just the framerate mismatch, OLED's un-pulsed presentation with almost instant response time greatly reduces the perceived motion smoothness of lower framerate content compared to eg, CRTs or plasma displays

The same happens to me in cinemas at 24 fps, it’s not the display technology that is giving me headaches.

Not sure if it's the same thing, but nearly all cinemas are digital nowadays, and panning artifacts are absolutely still there

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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One problem is that the people mixing the audio already know what is being said: Top-down processing (or more specifically, top-down auditory perception) This refers to perception being driven by prior knowledge, expectations, and context rather than purely by sensory input. When you already know the dialog, your brain projects that knowledge onto the sound and experiences it as “clear.”

Makes sense, but how does this explain the fact that this problem seems recent, or at least to have worsened recently ?

Netflix records many shows simultaneously in the same building. This is why their shows are all so dark - to prevent light bleeding across sets. I wonder if this is also true for keeping the volume down.
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