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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by pndy »

sho_hn wrote: post #219

Whew. Those screenshots: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/macos-26-tahoe-the-a... As a KDE Plasma dev, I always counted on us getting better, but I didn't expect the competition to get so much worse. We'd be flamed to high and heaven for shipping broken notification popups and rendering glitches like that in a prod release. What happened internally to cause this, I wonder?

After years with Xfce and GNOME, I recently switched to distro that by default prefers KDE, and I'm overall satisfied - Qogir theme, little customization and I'm as good as I was with Win7. Plasma 6.4.5 feels way more stable than line 5 that would crash during stupidest things.

As for what happen at Cupertino: it seems that they replaced people who knew theory and practice, principles of interface design with designers who were told to make a product that looks "fresh" and will diverge attention from Apple's AI failure.

Because why this Liquid Glass now if not as "rattling keys" effect? It's not a technological breakthrough - we've seen translucent plastic/glass/acrylic elements and fancy animations in operating systems before. Hell, even Plasma had that glass stuff in initial line 4 of release. And OSX had Aqua interface, window animations long before Microsoft wasted years for Longhorn finally releasing it as Vista with Aero. Not mention Compiz on Linux around same time.

My partner is already baffled with lack of polish and consistency across the system in this release. In some places it's just a transitional animation added on top of flat style for "wow" effect because hardware nowadays doesn't tax much for that. Tahoe feels like it tries to follow GNOME/Adwaita big interface elements that should stay exclusively on mobile devices, and it does this quite late and also really bad.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by esskay »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

The whole "Liquid Glass" UI is by far their worst ever take on a design language. It feels like stepping backwards to web 2.0 but with even bigger accessibility issues.

It doesn't look or feel modern, its ugly, inconsistent and just all around crap. God knows what they were thinking with this.

Also who on earth green lit these low resolution looking blurry icons everywhere?!

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

rcarmo wrote: post #211
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

Do you mean corner radiuses on the edge of windows? Because corner radiuses within windows should be different from the edge ones because the same corner radius stacked within itself creates ugly corners.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by macco »

robertlagrant wrote: post #591
nine_k wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought that Gnome developers are imitating macOS. Not copying blindly, but following the ideas and intents. Finally I hear from real users that the Gnome team has not just reached parity, but has actually exceeded their source of inspiration. (Partly due to the degradation of the latter, but still.)

When it takes me 5 clicks and two open windows to pick a bluetooth speaker in Gnome, I remember how far behind it is from MacOS's 2 clicks and zero windows.

It doesn't. It takes 2 clicks.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by niek_pas »

reddalo wrote: post #550
rckt wrote: post #531

The new approach they took is a disaster, technically and visually. This is a joke.

I agree, it's hideous. I miss the cleanliness of macOS Sierra. I'll just stay on Sequoia for the time being, and then switch to Linux.

Curious what your life is like that you can 'just' switch to Linux. For me changing desktop OSes at this point would be like moving to a different country.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by mitchell209 »

larholm wrote: post #565
thepryz wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original, updated version of the Finder icon alone should have been enough of a warning that the UX designers at Apple have lost their minds and any aesthetic sense, let alone an ability to design interfaces that are functional, efficient, and well thought-out. https://512pixels.net/2025/06/wwdc25-macos-tahoe-breaks-deca...

Apple changed this in Tahoe Beta 2 https://512pixels.net/2025/06/finder-icon-fixed/

They know that. They’re saying the fact that it ever shipped in the first place should’ve been a warning sign.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

pfortuny wrote: post #526
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

Either Tim Cook does not use a Mac computer or he does not notice/care. I am not saying he should helicopter-parent all the design process but the "finished" product? So: that is Apple's CEO for you.

Why would he when he's a numbers and supply chain guy not a product and vision guy.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

mickle00 wrote: post #325
runjake wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you post screenshots of what you mean? I see grossly rounded corners in some apps, but I don't see the other stuff like gaps in window corners for full screen apps. I may have some config bit flipped that has disabled those. Yeah, the new corner radius is ugly but by and large, it's not much different than before, from what I see so far.

https://imgur.com/a/jLPM9oV this is what I'm seeing with Safari, WhatsApp and Chrome all maximized but with various radius on each corner.

This is like back when a lot of major devs like Adobe just straight up started faking window borders instead of updating their apps to the newer framework and it all looked and felt inconsistent or just obviously way off.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by lwkl »

rectang wrote: post #427
basisword wrote: post #266

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The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

Launchpad is an easy gesture with the trackpad (pinch with thumb and three fingers), then type to filter and return to launch. I got used to it for stuff I don't keep in the dock (which is a lot, since I have the dock on the side and only a few things in it). I suppose Spotlight is OK as a substitute: COMMAND-SPACE, then type to filter and return to launch. It's a little more clunky (as the search results take a few…

I just tried it. The gesture you mentioned now opens the spotlight application search and there is no delay.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by randyrand »

robinhood wrote: post #218

First rule of MacOS upgrade: don't. Second rule: wait for x.1 or x.2 releases, so it's more stable and most importantly, the dependencies you need get updated.

I always wait until x.6 or x.7! usually around May
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