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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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He couldn’t care less.

Or maybe he could care less, but doesn't even bother to care less because caring less would exert effort and he doesn't care enough to exert any effort.

Own the grammar mistake, my dude :)

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The percentage of Harvard international students who fall into this category is statistically insignificant. It’s not even worth framing.

It's not about the percentage of Harvard international students who fall into this category, it's about the percentage of students in this category who go to Harvard.

Also fairly low. There's plenty of high-prestige institutions in the world.

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If they can do this to Harvard, what hope do other universities have?

Great question, right to the heart of the matter. First higher learning, somewhere down the line, ordinary people? In my small world, I'm very clear I'm anti-trump on every issue. As an ordinary person, how long before I get on some Stalin type radar? If trump lobbies for and gets a third term, will there be an awakening to how far the abuse will go?

I expect some government AI will soon be trawling through the databases of every social media network and assembling a political profile of every US resident. (They’re already starting to do this for tourists and visitors: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2479045-us-government-i...)

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I don't think the Trump admin gives a rat's ass about Jews. It's an excuse for legal action, in the same way that "fentanyl" was the excuse for tariffs on Canada.

This is one part of a large pattern of Republicans trying to end-run around the First Ammendment specifically to defend Israel from criticism. For instance, in Texas they make school teachers sign contracts that include terms forbidding criticism of Israel. Republicans have also been extremely reliable supporters of unconstitutional Anti-BDS laws. Make no mistake, the Republican party (and half the Democratic Party F…

>For instance, in Texas they make school teachers sign contracts that include terms forbidding criticism of Israel

The ability to criticise authority is a defining right of America. How are these teachers supposed to teach the First Amendment?

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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

He's 78 and at the end of his political career in few years, he could care less.

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Honestly as an American, I would seriously consider how my daughter can go to these top Canadian or EU schools.

Consider ETH Zurich too, although if truth be told, K12+4+2 education is 100% obsoleted now by AI; only PhD is still very relevant.

Eth is hard-core science and engineering like mit. Harvard is liberal arts.

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Would you consider habeas corpus a critical element of rule of law?

There's been loose talk, but no violations of habeas corpus orders.

Have there been violations of the priciple of habeas corpus?

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i'd guess this kind of thing (per-institutional authorization to allow international students) was intended to provide the government a way to revoke that right from "sham" institutions (wonder if Trump University ever had international students?) or ones that otherwise were obviously trying to facilitate students skirting or abusing immigration law. not that i agree with that anyways (citizenship is stupid, borders…

Chesterton's fence is way too relevant, when it comes to the "citizenship is stupid, borders are stupid, countries are stupid blah blah blah" part.

well, it'd be relevant if i was actually discussing the idea of immediately abolishing all borders and countries, which i'm definitely not doing here.

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People didn't have good choices. There was plenty to not like about the Democrats as well. You can argue who is worse, or even if the concerns are valid, but there are plenty of things many people don't like about how the democrats use their power. As such what was a voter to do? There are a long list of things, and most people are not willing accept that "their side" does anything someone else might not like. Doesn'…

People may not have had a good choice, but they had an obvious choice. The status quo of a Harris term - even considering the likely negatives, her pandering to the right and pro-Zionist stance - would have been objectively preferable to Trump. What is a voter to do? Not vote for the greater evil because they aren't in love with the lesser evil.

They strongly disagree. This is not a debate here - I didn't vote for Trump for a number of reasons. However I make an effort toiundertand because that is the first step to try to figure out how to win. When you just name call you ensure you lose

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The administration’s letter to Harvard (which they later claimed to have sent in error) made it clear that their intent is to root out what they perceive as liberal ideological bias at Harvard - nothing really to do with Israel, that was just an excuse. Whether there is a liberal bias is something I will leave others to debate (and if there is, whether that provides grounds for federal action, given the freedoms affo…

You are right that Trump is using the protests to further his agenda! And some are scolding him for doing that. They want him to only focus on the anti Israel protests instead of also pursuing anti woke policies. And he made clear that both anti Israel protests (aka antisemitism) and liberal leanings are affecting the university’s status.

Are you saying being anti an apartheid theocracy is anti-semetic? Or are you just saying Trump is making that claim?

Clarity is key in such things...

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