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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by vondur »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

I'm going to guess there may be a great deal many people who are Harvard Alumni who agree with the Trump Administration on this.

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Post by neuroelectron »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

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Post by lurk2 »

j_maffe wrote: post #473
lurk2 wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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To have international students be part of the university and contributing to its research?

Immigration policy being enforced is not an infringement of academic freedom.

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Post by gosub100 »

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #363
gosub100 wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Private schools can create and enforce their own rules how they wish. The United States government is forbidden from creating or enforcing rules on content of speech. It's actually only a 1st Amendment question in one case and not the other. Looks like they tricked ya though! (Technically it's a 1st Amendment question in both cases in that private entities have a 1st Amendment right to create rules for their own camp…

And private schools can suffer the consequences of oppressing certain groups.

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Post by _lvbh »

kitsune_ wrote: post #11

Insane how freely the US is giving away its status as a brain drain magnet (context: I'm European).

Dodged a huge bullet coming to Europe instead of the US. Was considering moving there for work/startup but at this point, I'd literally rather go to China

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Post by Aurornis »

scoofy wrote: post #8

If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

> We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

J.D. Vance gave a big speech at the Nationalism Conservatism Conference titled "The Universities are the Enemy": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw

Destroying universities has been his schtick since long before he was a VP candidate.

He has stated that he believes 4-year degrees make people dumber.

I'm constantly amazed by how many people don't know that waging wars on Universities has been Vance's thing for years.

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Post by woggy »

kurtis_reed wrote: post #365
woggy wrote: post #266

I don't see the US surviving the Trump administration.

Oh please

I think you have your head in the sand.

This Harvard thing is just one example. Just saw a report this morning (Aus time) of an Australian detained, stripped, and held overnight in a US federal prison. She was just coming in to visit her husband.

Who the hell will want to come to the US now? You are going to suffer a massive reverse brain drain. You got a 30% tariff tax, kidnapping of random people off the street including US citizens, blatant and overwhelming corruption at the highest levels, weaponizing of government to target people, institutions and private companies.

Good luck in the midterm 'elections'.

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

epolanski wrote: post #528
fnordpiglet wrote: post #283

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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

He's 78 and at the end of his political career in few years, he could care less.

He couldn’t care less.

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Post by scrubs »

0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #521
kristopolous wrote: post #516

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Ah yes, this is how we will be competitive - defunding universities, deporting the best and brightest, dismantling education, and cutting off trade. I mean seriously, if a malicious saboteur was running things, what would the differences be?

They’d probably try to be more subtle about it.

Whence the salient and more pressing question: why does the gop in the legislative branch take a zero?

We've all had bad bosses ... and that's a problem, but it's 10x worse when the people around know better and do nothing.

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