Question: Wouldn't it be super easy to check a private plane for how many passengers are on board? Just watching the passengers board with a thermographic camera should do the trick.
Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden
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#62Is it usual to ask planes carrying criminal suspects to be forced to land?
It was not forced to land directly, they were denied entry to airspace and they had to land to refuel, unable to reroute within their fuel limits.
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#63FlightRadar24 has the recorded track of his flight, FAB1, here: http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/2013-07-02/16:35/FAB1 The odd thing about the claim that Snowden was aboard is that FAB1 took off from Vnukovo but Snowden is apparently in Sheremetyevo. Here's a picture of plane turning round over Austria and then descending and landing in Vienna: http://i.imgur.com/cuUQkWV.jpg UPDATE: News reports say that FAB1 is leavi…
I know humor doesn't work so well here, but FAB1? Seriously? International rescue? No? I'll get my coat.
Yes, I had the same thought. The Bolivian Air Force is Fuerza Aérea Boliviana, hence FAB.
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#64Now we know what will happen to Snowden if he is granted asylum by a country that can only be reached by flight. The flight permits will be rescinded, the plane forced to land and subjected to a search, and if Snowden is present I suspect he will be arrested and extradited to the USA on the basis that the asylum is invalid on the grounds that it was not granted in the destination country. Russia really is his best ch…
> the plane forced to land Forced how? I doubt anybody would be willing to shoot a civilian plane down to get Snowden, especially if the plane in question was also carrying a president or other high ranking people. So the pilot could relatively safely ignore any demands to land.
aircraft maintenance, Korean Air Lines Flight 007 (incident response observation)
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know humor doesn't work so well here, but FAB1? Seriously? International rescue? No? I'll get my coat.
Yes, I had the same thought. The Bolivian Air Force is Fuerza Aérea Boliviana, hence FAB.
I won't even try to guess what's the code for Peruvian or Colombian military planes is.
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#66A funny comment I picked up from Reddit: > "Bolivia should cut all cocaine exports to the US, and push Colombia to do the same, within a week you would see all US politicians panicking and killing each others trying to check first into rehab"
That's funny because, what, all US politicians use cocaine?
Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden
#67Question: Wouldn't it be super easy to check a private plane for how many passengers are on board? Just watching the passengers board with a thermographic camera should do the trick.
It would probably be an illegal search in violation of diplomatic immunity.
(airports aren't allowed to scan diplomatic pouches)
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing is "usual" about the Snowden situation, anyway.
I'm trying to gauge whether this is a genuinely strange situation by the standards of international policing.
Yes, it's unprecedented to stop and frisk a world leader on suspicion of someone on board.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's funny, going from wanting to be the US' "51st state" to not even wanting to be a full EU member, which I think makes a lot more sense (to be one).
In general..... The anti EU people in the UK see the EU as socialist, liberal and left wing. The anti EU people in the UK are...... you guessed it... right wing. Fairly extreme right in UK terms, but probably still left wing by US standards. So, for them, the US is an aspiration further right. IMHO, the EU makes total sense, even if there are many problems with it, and even the US government have urged the UK to get…
You don't have to be right wing to be anti-EU. I'm extremely anti-EU and I'm not "right wing".
The EU is a totalitarian, anti-democratic bureaucracy machine that will trample over the nations of Europe. I don't see what's there to like.
Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden
#70A funny comment I picked up from Reddit: > "Bolivia should cut all cocaine exports to the US, and push Colombia to do the same, within a week you would see all US politicians panicking and killing each others trying to check first into rehab"
That's funny because, what, all US politicians use cocaine?
Table B.7 Cocaine Use in Past Year, by Age Group and State: Percentages, Annual Averages Based on 2006 and 2007 NSDUHs
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DC out in front by more than a nose, historically too. Probably not just politicians at the trough though.