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Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Post by jgrahamc »

FlightRadar24 has the recorded track of his flight, FAB1, here: http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/2013-07-02/16:35/FAB1

The odd thing about the claim that Snowden was aboard is that FAB1 took off from Vnukovo but Snowden is apparently in Sheremetyevo.

Here's a picture of plane turning round over Austria and then descending and landing in Vienna: http://i.imgur.com/cuUQkWV.jpg

UPDATE: News reports say that FAB1 is leaving VIE shortly and it is now appearing on FlightRadar24's live view.

Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Post by buro9 »

Now we know what will happen to Snowden if he is granted asylum by a country that can only be reached by flight.

The flight permits will be rescinded, the plane forced to land and subjected to a search, and if Snowden is present I suspect he will be arrested and extradited to the USA on the basis that the asylum is invalid on the grounds that it was not granted in the destination country.

Russia really is his best chance.

Edit: Which makes me wonder, did Bolivia help spread this rumour (on behalf of Ecuador or Venezuela) to test what would happen

Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Post by kriro »

jgrahamc wrote: post #2

FlightRadar24 has the recorded track of his flight, FAB1, here: http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/2013-07-02/16:35/FAB1 The odd thing about the claim that Snowden was aboard is that FAB1 took off from Vnukovo but Snowden is apparently in Sheremetyevo. Here's a picture of plane turning round over Austria and then descending and landing in Vienna: http://i.imgur.com/cuUQkWV.jpg UPDATE: News reports say that FAB1 is leavi…

I was not even aware that site exists. Pretty fascinating stuff, thx for posting.

I'm surprised Poland let him pass if Snowden was really supposed to be on board. US-Polish relations are generally pretty good.

Russia->South America without clashing with the US seems like an interesting problem. If Italy,France,Spain,Portugal is blocked you pretty much have to take a giant detour, go through Africa or try flying out east of Russia (which immediately puts you close to the US). Probably have to go on a very southeast route right away...which basically means he might have been better off going Hong Kong->Ecuador if he could have negotiated that option sooner

Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Post by Irishsteve »

buro9 wrote: post #3

Now we know what will happen to Snowden if he is granted asylum by a country that can only be reached by flight. The flight permits will be rescinded, the plane forced to land and subjected to a search, and if Snowden is present I suspect he will be arrested and extradited to the USA on the basis that the asylum is invalid on the grounds that it was not granted in the destination country. Russia really is his best ch…

I think searching a government / diplomatic plane isn't allowed.

Re: Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

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Post by acqq »

buro9 wrote: post #3

Now we know what will happen to Snowden if he is granted asylum by a country that can only be reached by flight. The flight permits will be rescinded, the plane forced to land and subjected to a search, and if Snowden is present I suspect he will be arrested and extradited to the USA on the basis that the asylum is invalid on the grounds that it was not granted in the destination country. Russia really is his best ch…

re: "did Bolivia help spread this rumour"

No sane state president would risk his own flight safety "to test what would happen."

They president, the delegation and the crew now unnecessarily spent the whole night at the airport for chrissake!

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